How to use Counterattack tactics in 3v3 or 4v4

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How to use this commander in team games? Please after b4 nerf the best advantage precision strike is no more. How to use abilities and good build? Please help me. And for the motherland nerf uuh Relic thanks!

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There you go:

- Make sure that there are no Stuka 50kg commanders around before choosing the doctrine
- Get only 1 Shock unit or you will be MP drained
- Best with T4
- Dont overdo it with the KV1s, get either 2 AT guns or Su85 to support
- Watch out for schreck-rushes, you are vounurable against that
- You can specify on artillery if your teammates know how to support you
- If so, combine the recon run with Katyushas and the B4 of course
- Build the B4 so that the OKW med truck is at its max range
- Secure it with mines/barb wire against rushes
- Do never fire blindly
- Always turn it in advance where you will (have to) strike using the minimap
- Wait for good chances/unit accumulations and fire with the unit movement in mind
- You can occupy enemies with the KV1 (it can take some damage) while the shot is flying
- Early vehicle hits are preferable to get vet faster
- You can pull of tricks, where you force a retreat with a Katyusha barrage/FMR'd infantry and fire at the retreatpoint right afterwards and hope for a hit

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Early vehicle hits are preferable to get vet faster? what do you mean? And KV1 have better penetration than t34? Thanks @spearhead. What do you think about dual b4?

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I mean you should try to hit vehicles if you want the B4 to vet up quicker. The gun of the KV1 is the same as t34 and cannot penetrate anything heavier than a P4. The tank is basicly shit and overpriced but it's a call in and can be useful to a certain extent.
Dual B4 is an option for larger games, make sure to have some space in between them.

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Overall this doctrine is good in only certain situations. It can be easily counter by top ostheer commanders like mechanized assasult. It is better vs OKW right? And some end tips? What do you think about commanders with kv8 like terror or anti infantry? It can be meatshield like normal kv1

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