Tired of getting idiots in 95% in 2v2 games.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jun 2015, 22:50 PMaaa

90% of 1v1 players are OK in every 1v1 game not just COH2. 234s players they play team modes only cuz they suck in this game.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2015, 03:05 AMvan Voort

That's why there are ranks that say some people are better at it than others obviously

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 16:56 PMdasheepeh

In all honesty, a 4v4 rank is nothing, really nothing to brag about. Grab a team of 4 semi decent players and stomp 85% of the games because most of the 4v4 players are low skilled players.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 17:00 PMBurts

In 4v4 99% of the games are stomps because the matchmaking doesn't work there

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 16:56 PMdasheepeh

In all honesty, a 4v4 rank is nothing, really nothing to brag about. Grab a team of 4 semi decent players and stomp 85% of the games because most of the 4v4 players are low skilled players.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 22:42 PMvan Voort

Sorry I forgot how I get a team together in 4v4 random could you explain to me perhaps?


Like or not, there are ranks in 4v4 random and some people are better at it than others.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2015, 14:33 PMdasheepeh

its just luck what kind of random team you get. a 1v1 top 10 player is better than a top 10 4v4 player guaranteed.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2015, 15:17 PMWingZero

If you are playing competitively then why go for randoms? I would think playing with randoms is for a fun/troll/test factor.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2015, 15:25 PMvan Voort

Your original quote:

In all honesty, a 4v4 rank is nothing, really nothing to brag about. Grab a team of 4 semi decent players and stomp 85% of the games because most of the 4v4 players are low skilled players.

You don't get a rank in 4v4 random by "grabbing a team of a 4 semi-decent players" because it's entirely random who you are with and against

How you manage that governs your skill level at random 4v4 because some people are better at it than others and over time the vagaries of the matchmaking will even out.

So anyone who wants to claim, as people in this thread have, that "4v4 is no skill mode" is full of pudding.



4v4 AT is a different kettle of fish, and a team of competent players can break the top 200 without too much problem because, especially as Axis, the balance is so much in your favour for AT v Randoms that it's mostly a matter of playing 20 or so games with the same people.

That said, it's still a case of who is better at it than others.

Jump back to quoted post24 May 2015, 21:36 PMaaa

Tired of getting idiots in 95% in 2v2 games

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2015, 15:43 PMdasheepeh

Whats your point?

Its obvious that some players are better at 4v4 than others, random and AT. Doesnt mean 4v4 requires much skill. A 4v4 random rank depends on your luck and a high 4v4 AT rank is easily obtained.

You cant tell me that 4v4 demands near as much skill as 1v1 does. Its bullshit. Ive played all modes quite extensively in both CoH1 and CoH2 and 4v4 is a spammy scrubfest every single time. Its not fun for me, but it apparently is for some people. Fair enough. Just dont be delusive enough to believe that 4v4 takes much skill and knowledge to play successfully.

Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2015, 14:49 PMhazifeladat

it is because you are one of them

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2015, 02:55 AMvan Voort

I'll accept that the best players play 1v1 and that the skill ceiling of 1v1 players is higher.


I'll also accept that the skill set of 1v1 players helps them more in 4v4 than the 4v4 players skill set will help them in 1v1


I don't accept that there is any inherent reason that one is harder than the other

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 17:00 PMBurts

In 4v4 99% of the games are stomps because the matchmaking doesn't work there

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 08:18 AMTrubbbel

That's the truth obviously. And it shouldn't be conceptually difficult to understand that how hard somthing is determines the amount of skill to be successful at overcoming. The more people try to win 4v4, the harder it will be to win over those players and the more skilled you have to be to be successful.

But some will just continue to stick their heads in the sand and repeat "no skills at 4v4 and what I do is elite!"


All it would take for someone to prove that false is to go play some 4v4 games and if not every game turned out stomps you would be proven utterly wrong. And you are, of course. The other day I played a game that we won with 5 tickers left.