What good is the tiger tank?
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Nothing wrong with off-topic. OKW certainly is in a worse spot than OH now anyways.
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I agree. It needs some more armor or health.
Middle ground would be nice. It's a heavy tank, it shouldn't have to be so scared to move ever so slightly away from its friends.
Oh, Im not scared of IS2, ZiS or T34/85, none Tiger should be. You have enough armor and health to get out when troubles are coming.
On the other hand, I'm not scared of Tiger when using IS2.
But Im scared when I face 2 ZiS and IS2, just like IS2 is scared when faces Tiger with 2 Paks.
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Have you tried making a plan to take it out and not just a-move?
Have u ever thought why a lategame heavy tank has sunk so low its incapable of operating on its own.And i'm not talking abt solo charges or a-move.Can't even defend a place on its own without pak support.
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If you're brazenly charging either vehicle you're doing it wrong, if you have no support, you'll lose, etc etc I don't think we need a lecture, but as some others here are saying, let's not just assume there is no context for this fight. In a straight up fight more will eb down to RNG, but let's face it no one in their right mind would not support their super tank. A tank with support is tank that's hanging around longer than one without.
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Have u ever thought why a lategame heavy tank has sunk so low its incapable of operating on its own.And i'm not talking abt solo charges or a-move.Can't even defend a place on its own without pak support.
I tend to use panthers now a days as they are simply better at dealing with enemy armor and quick enough to maneuver around. I use tigers as AI.
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Ostheerlitz is one of these people who worship their delusions regardless of actual state of balance.
What is the actual state of balance?
Is is-2 not the most abused tank in the game atm.
Are soviets not the strongest faction by far who can ignore mistake after mistake and come back atm?U ignore these and call me deluded?
Ignoring this shititof continues his farcical tirade as usual.
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And yes, the PIV is bad vs gaurd motor, but it's alright againts the IS-2. Tiger is of course better.
No point bothering with you after this.
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Permanently BannedIF U SEE HE WENT FOR IS2 OR 85'S. GET DOUBLE PAKS AND PLANT SOME GOD DAMN MINES.
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Id rather see IS2 getting nerfed. Its not funny anymore.
Indeed. The tiger is in a good place at the moment for its cost. It's lethal vs infantry and is good against tanks, but not to the point where can no longer engage it effectively with medium armor (if we leave the fact that the tiger does not require tech out of the equation).
The IS-2 on the other hand, while not being all that more lethal than the tiger, does fare too well against enemy medium tanks and non-heavy AT options such as pumas and rackettenwerfers.
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'Course the Tiger's wiping left and right too, but doesn't make the IS-2 just right. It's dumb in both cases.
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My problem when playing with a Tiger is not the IS-2 or the T34 but the mark target. With this ability a tiger will die from 5 shots from T34/85 and can#t even fight back because its turret turns so god damn slow.
It´s true that the turret turns slow, but that´s why you´ve to do the same thing as they did in WW2. Turn the tank, so your turret will be atleast 200% faster in position. When I turn my tank to the side which my turret is facing I can shoot them within 2 seconds (not calculation any reload timer)
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https://youtu.be/xyrcIeY0bLw?t=1077
Seems to penetrate allright.
https://youtu.be/xyrcIeY0bLw?t=1192
That's a bit painful squad wipe?
Those happened when Tiger was around maybe couple of minutes? Point being, this thread makes seem like Tiger is somewhat helpless. It most certainly isn't.
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https://youtu.be/xyrcIeY0bLw?t=1077
Seems to penetrate allright.
Against KV8? Wow, I am so impressed.
https://youtu.be/xyrcIeY0bLw?t=1192
That's a bit painful squad wipe?
Squad wipe occurence is alot and I mean alot lower in soviet's case if we compare to any axis faction. So what do these links prove anyway?
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Against KV8? Wow, I am so impressed.
Squad wipe occurence is alot and I mean alot lower in soviet's case if we compare to any axis faction. So what do these links prove anyway?
Did you read my conclusion?
This is just one example. I was watching a stream yesterday, it reminded me of this thread -> it doesn't seem so useless.
-EDIT- Like said earlier in this thread, Wehr has a lot of issues - BUT TIGER IS NOT BIGGEST OF THEM
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Against KV8? Wow, I am so impressed.
Squad wipe occurence is alot and I mean alot lower in soviet's case if we compare to any axis faction. So what do these links prove anyway?
I have to agree with Johnny B on this one.
Although I think the Tiger 1 would have some better survivability and some more power with the following changes:
Armour: stays 300
Pen: 220/200/180 > 240/220/200 (Only to make it more able to penetrate tanks in the long run)
Damage: 160 > 180 (or 200)
HP: 1040 > 1280 (Would love to see it go to 1280, but will never get to that point anymore)
Edit: Fuel from 230 > 250 (Easy accessable for Ostheer)
But that's my opinion. Don't whoop my ass for this
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Sorry, but that is NOT a reason to change anything.
And lol @MendQ changes, maybe 50 range and cost decrease on top of it as well?
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Forgot to mention a cost increase. fuel from 230 > 250. Which is easily to manage for Ostheer.
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