What else do you suggest to give as Vet 1, and what bonus would you give on Vet 5 instead (because it buffs said ability)?
Capturing points!
And with vet5 faster capturing!
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What else do you suggest to give as Vet 1, and what bonus would you give on Vet 5 instead (because it buffs said ability)?
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there's a fine line there between useless abilities and super snowball abilities. with that said, there are only a few vet abilities that are fine and less that are potentially op.
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Worked fine last time (vCoH).
JPIV is underused as it is, don't nerf it now.
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This is an excellent tank, its fine how it is.
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Underused? Really? At that level of play it's underused? At top 1000? The OKW don't need Pather of KT for win, double JP with some infantry and LE18 is able to shotdown everything.
You can't fight OKW inf with Sov or US inf at same effictivness, so you need some tanks or support weapons. All allied tanks is tresh for JP + Raketen combo, and Obers just laugh at mg's with inf supp. Yep, it's a question of micro right. Try to flank it.
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This is an excellent tank, its fine how it is.
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It is okay. On its own its useless and easily flanked, has no pintle mounted MG and is a dedicated tank hunter. it can only work properly with infantry ahead spotting for it. It promotes combined arms in the otherwise lackluster OKW unit loster. In that regard I am fine with it in its current form.
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Basically, you can't EASILY flank him. Couse of 2 raketen covering JP4, and they able to penetrate Tigers front armor btw. For 270 mp. And if you playing same game as do I, you can't find routes to flank on EVERY map. They are bottle necks.
Why i'm no surprised with "i'm fine with it" Unit with great armor, a lot of hp, top damage and invisibility is fine
Do you realise what this unit shut down all allied tanks hard? And it comes out at the same or 1-2 minutes later that allied medium tanks...
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JP4 is fine. Its worth the cost. Its not OP.
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I like when people describe subjetively, instead of objetively.
-It has the same HP as an Su85 = Same HP as most medium tanks = 640hp
-DPS means shit on this game for AT purposes. You talk about Pen and RoF.
Su85 fire .75s faster and has a better pen drop off.
Note: JP4 fights against lower armored tanks in comparison to Su85 and the disparity on AT infantry.
-Armor wise, yeah.
-Veterancy: i'll rather have tracking and veterancy improved on the Su85 rather than tweaking the JPIV.
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Antitank, with LOT of hp AND armor, with high DPS and INVISIBILITY?
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Does the invisibility require a sort of hull-down ability with a cooldown that either immobilizes the tank or reduces its speed and rotation like the forward scope sight on tanks like SU85s and Elefants?
Because if its just a passive invisibility for not moving, then maybe it needs a drawback of some sort. The cloaking may not be a problem in and of itself, but the way it cloaks and what sort of restrictions/tradeoffs it has does matter a rather big deal.
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