Had a thought. Maybe a .30 cal weapons team in tier 0. Pretty much only good at suppressing. Cheap. Same cone as the fifty. Same tripod. Etc.
All of these things are up in the air. How would this be viable? If possible at all.
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28 Apr 2015, 00:51 AM
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28 Apr 2015, 00:58 AM
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Improve .50 cal, dont put in another unit to replace it.
28 Apr 2015, 01:02 AM
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Improve .50 cal, dont put in another unit to replace it.
Put 50. cal in T0, rebalance it and Riflemen
28 Apr 2015, 03:53 AM
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Put 50. cal in T0, rebalance it and Riflemen
Then that would just encourage the USF meta to become defensive like the OST and Soviets I like how the USF MG is since it actually makes the USF aggressive unlike Wher/Sov who usually get MG's and Mortars to lock down the map.
In response to the OP. Is it possible? Yes. Should they? No. The USF are build around advancing something that a tripod mounted MG doesn't support.
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28 Apr 2015, 05:08 AM
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When you suggest something you need to provide reasons and thought process. Why they hell USF needs more early game fire power, specially suppression. Rifles and M20 rush REKS everything already in hands of a good player.
M2HB is not the best MG, but USF should not have "T0 cheap suppression unit" at all.
M2HB is not the best MG, but USF should not have "T0 cheap suppression unit" at all.
28 Apr 2015, 05:24 AM
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M2HB is not the best MG, but USF should not have "T0 cheap suppression unit" at all.
It's not that they shouldn't get ti it's that they don't need it. Hell I don't see why you would want it a Tier 0 because the last thing the USF wants is to be digging in and defending in early game. You want to keep raiding and harassing sending your opponent on wild goose chases and being a nuisance... a fair fight you don't want. A static map you don't want. If you want that you play Germany or Soviets.
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28 Apr 2015, 05:31 AM
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50cal against OKW on cutoff building 
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
28 Apr 2015, 05:40 AM
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It's not that they shouldn't get ti it's that they don't need it. Hell I don't see why you would want it a Tier 0 because the last thing the USF wants is to be digging in and defending in early game. You want to keep raiding and harassing sending your opponent on wild goose chases and being a nuisance... a fair fight you don't want. A static map you don't want. If you want that you play Germany or Soviets.
You're right, that's the best way to play as USF (Shock and Awe they call it in real life) just push push and push. My point is, if you are able to bring a cheap MG and just put it inside a building behind your lines, there is zero chance for the Axis player to have a comeback, specially if you don't bleed MP. So simply put, they should not have it, and they don't very much need it as you say.
Note that I'm talking about smaller games, imagine T0 MG for USF in a 4v4 game.
28 Apr 2015, 06:45 AM
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USF's standard infantry is the best in the game and dominates the early game against all counterparts.
Adding in a HMG would make Rifles even stronger and prevent Sturmpioneers from flanking which is atm the only solution to counter Rifles because they charge Volksgrenadiers way to good.
Adding in a HMG would make Rifles even stronger and prevent Sturmpioneers from flanking which is atm the only solution to counter Rifles because they charge Volksgrenadiers way to good.
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And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
28 Apr 2015, 06:59 AM
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I would rather see the .50 do its job and be effective vs any light vehicles and covers than being a T0 unit.
28 Apr 2015, 10:09 AM
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I would rather see the .50 do its job and be effective vs any light vehicles and covers than being a T0 unit.
You have bazooka for that kind of thing if you went Lt. and if you went Cpt. you have AT gun and Cpt. himself.
28 Apr 2015, 10:35 AM
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We'll I think t0 must stay as it is, but buff for 50.call team needed, because they can from a single rifle grenade or just one tank shot.
28 Apr 2015, 10:42 AM
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We'll I think t0 must stay as it is, but buff for 50.call team needed, because they can from a single rifle grenade or just one tank shot.
So, shall we buff all 4-man weapon teams now?
28 Apr 2015, 11:03 AM
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it already exists in the fighting position... too bad its lost it's legs.
28 Apr 2015, 11:56 AM
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You have bazooka for that kind of thing if you went Lt. and if you went Cpt. you have AT gun and Cpt. himself.
lol, nice troll.
28 Apr 2015, 12:16 PM
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lol, nice troll.
...huh?
I just pointed out that USF already have ways to counter light vehicles. I don't think that they need another one that would be also able to counter infantry though decent AoE suppression.
28 Apr 2015, 13:53 PM
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...huh?
I just pointed out that USF already have ways to counter light vehicles. I don't think that they need another one that would be also able to counter infantry though decent AoE suppression.
All factions have many ways to counter stuff, dunno why that one should be prohibed because other ways exist? Should we remove MG42 vet ability because Ostheer has Faust, shreck and pak aleady available to deal with early vehicles?
But don't get me wrong, I don't "want" it, I just say I'd better have this capability rather than having the HMG available at T0.
28 Apr 2015, 14:14 PM
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I would rather see the .50 do its job and be effective vs any light vehicles and covers than being a T0 unit.
Interestingly enough, the .50 used to have AP rounds as its vet 1 ability, but it was replaced with sprint for reasons.
Sometimes the tooltips in the loadingscreen still talk about the .50 AP rounds.
I think that AP rounds would make the most sense with the M2HB, as they would fit its role in US military doctrine and also give USF T1 a softcounter vs. flak halftrack and puma.
28 Apr 2015, 14:47 PM
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Even if it was worth doing, the m1919 is already in the game (in the Infantry Company and with Paras) so Relic has already decided what role they wanted .30 to fill in the game.
28 Apr 2015, 14:52 PM
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To b e honest I didn't think about this one much. As a hole The uS needs diversity down low, in the beginning. There early game is bland. None the less it is there strongest feature. So I understand the blowback.
I appreciate the feedback.
I appreciate the feedback.
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