Relic, you gonna fix 120mm, or not?

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:30 PMilGetUSomDay

its sort of a micro problem, but the tremendous range means it can auto fire a crossed the map at just about anything. I sure cant move all my units simultaneously, plus weapons teams have to not be moving to be doing things. That first 120 shot could easily wipe it before you know it was firing at it in the first place. Not to mention the precision shot at vet one.

every faction has gotten indirect fire buffed by the cover change, only the 120 has been a squad wiping machine. The Ostheer turbo mortar comes in second in this category, but its small blast radius prevents it from wiping all the time and rather just doing a consistent bleed.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:31 PMTatatala

Is that really true? I know that when I use the 120mm (or any indirect for that matter), I always manually make the mortar fire upon any squad I see bunched up.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:35 PMNuclear Arbitor

the wurfrahmen, not the 120. the 120 is most certainly not a skill shot.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 15:58 PMBudwise

They attempted in the last patch but it doesn't really seem any different.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:39 PMLosttruppen

On top of fixing unit behaviour in cover, I feel this thing will still need something of a drawback. Right now it is incredibly effective for its cost and arrival timing.

Baring a stuka barrage on someone who isn't paying attention this thing is nigh impossible to decrew, and with its wide range and the fact it can retreat make this thing far more than a nuisance. Either have it decrew at 2 men like all other mortars or remove retreat.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:11 PMAlexzandvar

Why they thought that made sense is really anyone's guess.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:43 PMsiuking666

Attempted?...

Mid AOE was buffed on top of far AOE nerf

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:45 PMTatatala

Yes, so it's mid AOE is now in range of LeiG and Wher Mortar effective ranges, so you can get into that range without being destroyed on the way in, giving you a soft counter. You could also, you know, flank it with infantry, for a hard counter...

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:47 PMPorygon

Just get a game my opponents Gren and vet 3 PG walking up to my UNSUPPORTED 120, trying to take it out, but getting squadwiped by this exact mortar. I didn't give any command to the 120.

It must be fun. Good balance. FFS.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:48 PMsiuking666

vs noobs like you? sure I can do that.
How about I play soviet using Guard Motor and you try to steal it from me? If you fail then dont bullshit people with you can do xxxx.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:37 PMTatatala

I hardly see dragging a line across the map, as any more skill than manually targeting a bunched up squad, especially as you can do that 'skill shot' into the FoW, and it will hit exactly where you want it to, without any RnG involved like barrage...

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:48 PMTatatala

So he blobbed 2 squads together, in sight and range of the mortar, and didn't expect to take losses? It must have been like that, as the motars RoF wouldn't allow that if he had been spaced out. That sounds like a skill issue of your opponent, rather than an imbalance.

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Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:52 PMTatatala

Now now, there is no need to resort to name calling.

I have done it many times. I have also failed many times when I have come up against an opponent higher skilled than myself, who actually supported it well. Perhaps this is your issue? Maybe the guy you failed against was just a better player, and out skilled you. It happens.

CoH is much like poker. Everybody thinks their better at it, then they actually are.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 16:15 PMJohnnyShaun

If 120mm was an Axis weapon, you would have said : "Work as intented, you allied fanboy can't understand 400MP so expensive, L2P guys some counter exist"