The Brummbar

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 11:58 AMButcher

You don´t need to have Panthers and Tigers to fight off T-34s and Su-85s. In 90% of all cases you are going to face IS-2 and/or T-34/85 call ins. In this meta a Brummbär doesn´t help either.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 12:13 PMAustralian Magic

One pak, one Panther and one brummbar vs 4 t34/85

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Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 12:55 PMZyllen

GG but the brumbar really did nothing for you when it comes to the 85 part. the first 85 he lost because it ate a teller ( hooray it didnt bug ) the second one he tried to flank but your pak and panther where in position.

the third one he lost because he charged your pak panther head on and ate a heat round. the 4th is a lone 85 trying to defeat a panther at long range with pak support. the only real impact the brumbar had in those fights is that chaos foolishly squandered his mark target on the brumbar.

in total the brumbar did 2 squad wipes all of them could be avoided because it took the brumbar 2 shots. once again im not really impressed by the performance and a ostwind could have been more useful.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 12:52 PMakula

still, needs a buff (frontal armor) imo, and a cost decrease for T4.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 12:52 PMKatitof

Its quite handy and will penetrate easily almost all mediums(only Ez8 will deflect) and help against heavies by supporting paks.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 12:35 PMATCF

Yeah if you somehow manage to get a VET 3 Brummbar it will win vs IS-2 in 1vs1 due to each non penetrating hit, is still doing 33% damage and it can stun

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 14:50 PMTrubbbel

Never seen a vet 3 Brummbär. IIRC I had un unvetted Brummbär at 25 infantry kills.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 13:21 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

260 armor is actually quite decent. It'll get 30% more armor at vet 2 = 338 armor.

The Sturmtiger only got 220 armor which is weird because it actually had very strong armor.




It has 100 penetration at max range and 140 at close range. That's not even enough for a T-34/76.

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I almost never use this tank. Hard to say what needs to be done to make it viable.

I'd say Ostheer teching needs to be adjusted first.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 16:19 PMNinjaWJ

i think the sturmpanzer is a great unit. I think it could use a cost reduction though.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 17:17 PMAlexzandvar

This is a self contradicting statement, by any measure almost every unit in the game is great, but most are cost inefficient.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 18:25 PMNinjaWJ

performance and cost efficiency is a little different. brumbarr can wipe squads well and has some decent armor.

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 18:29 PMAlexzandvar

Performance is tied to cost, so the two are inseparable. The M10 on paper is still eh but it's extremely cheap so it's a amazing unit in practice. On paper all of Ostheer T4 is great, but crap in practice because of the extremely high cost your paying for it.