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31 Mar 2015, 07:28 AM
#21
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Mar 2015, 07:08 AMJorad
Jackson is a PURE Tank Destroyer fitted only to deal with Tanks. Why would you make other heavies (that are good allpurpose tanks) better then a Pure tank Destroyer?
Because i don't think the tiger and especially the is2 are not well represented with a 160 damage model. If medium vehicles were tweaked and callins are tied to teching then I feel like this could be implemented with the right outlook. To add another level of differentiation between units, aesthetics, etc. The jacksons "Pure tank destroyer" role does not mean it should be the only one to claim this damage profile when units like tiger could potentially be implemented with this as well. I mean its a 125 fuel TD, I'm not sure what you are wanting? Its not like I'm asking for jackson nerfs, heavy tanks aren't untouchable at 60 range and have the speed like a jackson does. Seeing as how the tiger is going to be having a rough time here this patch supposedly, and the fact that is2 is yet again represented poorly. This could be a good opportunity.

Again this change only makes sense as long as teching and medium tanks are tweaked. The community seems to want a change for both of these things, its best to make it so heavy tanks change with it. Because people don't rely on call in heavy tanks because they are OP. (Unless you think tiger/is2 is OP). But because non dectrinal methods are boring or just not as effective in terms of cost effectiveness or performance.

Its not a needed change to be honest, just something I thought might be better.
31 Mar 2015, 09:11 AM
#22
avatar of OZtheWiZARD

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IS2 and Tigers main strength is HP pool and armour not the damage they do.
Jackson is unique as its very squish and its also the only heavy hitter USF have.


To summarise I disagree with OP and think that's a bad idea.
31 Mar 2015, 20:26 PM
#23
avatar of Jorad

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People use heavy tanks, because they are OP. IS 2 is THE Soviet tank others (KV 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) are all forgoten, because they suck. Why no p4 and why little panthers but straight to Tiger? because close to OP. Why king Tiger ,well OP. If you want a different role for the Heavy tanks, make them damage soakers not damage dealers.
1 Apr 2015, 01:38 AM
#24
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Mar 2015, 20:26 PMJorad
People use heavy tanks, because they are OP. IS 2 is THE Soviet tank others (KV 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) are all forgoten, because they suck. Why no p4 and why little panthers but straight to Tiger? because close to OP. Why king Tiger ,well OP. If you want a different role for the Heavy tanks, make them damage soakers not damage dealers.


problem is, people dont want to see that 1 heavy getting beaten and smacked around by 3 mediums from the front. history nuts will go crazy and tears will flow.

there's a simple solution. drastically reduce the reverse speed of heavies, so they dont match mediums while reversing. it should be easy for mediums to get into the rear of heavies and not the way it is now, heavies can reverse and give mediums more trouble than its worth it get to its rear armour.
1 Apr 2015, 08:27 AM
#25
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jump backJump back to quoted post1 Apr 2015, 01:38 AMwongtp

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there's a simple solution. drastically reduce the reverse speed of heavies, so they dont match mediums while reversing. it should be easy for mediums to get into the rear of heavies and not the way it is now, heavies can reverse and give mediums more trouble than its worth it get to its rear armour.


I think they've said that it's technically not possible. And besides, let the tears follow.
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