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Valid point, I don't think the werfer or katyusha should get 320 health. They are just fine with 160. If anything 200 max. The werfer isn't that great, similar to the FHT the teching requirements make this thing as rare as a unicorn.
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panzer werfer needs to be in t3 where you have a chance to waste fuel on something other than anti tank. In t4 it has zero place considering the cost and time to retain and the low amount of damage it can practically inflict.
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Also stuka has a lower range than katusha which makes sense why it has higher HP
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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And to the guy trying to say "its more expensive", you can reliably get it in 9th minute, have fun getting katy or pwerfer before 11-14min mark.
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Stuka is simply too durable, unless a tank is sitting on it, you can save it most of the time. It also have vastly superior barrage to both of them for merely 15 more fuel.That´s wrong. The Stuka zu Fuß effectively costs even more fuel with the decreased income of OKW.
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Have fun building wurframen as your first vehicle unit MVGame. I hope you do that if we meet online and are opponents.
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Have fun building wurframen as your first vehicle unit MVGame. I hope you do that if we meet online and are opponents.
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Pwerfer also got lower range then katy, yet it have 160hp.
Stuka is simply too durable, unless a tank is sitting on it, you can save it most of the time.
It also have vastly superior barrage to both of them for merely 15 more fuel.
And to the guy trying to say "its more expensive", you can reliably get it in 9th minute, have fun getting katy or pwerfer before 11-14min mark.
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That´s wrong. The Stuka zu Fuß effectively costs even more fuel with the decreased income of OKW.
With about 2/3rd the fuel-income, the actual fuel cost is 85 for Kat vs 133 for Stuka. That´s an effective difference of 48 fuel.
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Then how do you balance a unit/faction if said unit is harder to get? There are effectively less units of that type on the field. It must be somewhat stronger.
First, income reduction is there to delay teching, not to show the power of a unit.
Ha, I didn´t have maths since six years. I never liked it.
Second, even if we took the income reduction in the price, it would be 150 fuel for the Stuka (100 x 1.5).
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Then how do you balance a unit/faction if said unit is harder to get? There are effectively less units of that type on the field. It must be somewhat stronger.
Or if the developers wanted there to be less vehicles with the same power as your opponents vehicles, OKW would have to have an (intended) advantage in infantry to balance the faction.
Not defending the current performance of the units, but I think the fuel argument isn´t good.
Ha, I didn´t have maths since six years. I never liked it.
But that makes the fuel difference even higher.
Add to that no caches and you can figure out that OKW is currently designed around having less but more effective units on the field. Thus a higher survivability on the Stuka can be explained.
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I do that sometimes in 2vs2 and it's not too bad.
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Pwerfer also got lower range then katy, yet it have 160hp.
Stuka is simply too durable, unless a tank is sitting on it, you can save it most of the time.
It also have vastly superior barrage to both of them for merely 15 more fuel.
And to the guy trying to say "its more expensive", you can reliably get it in 9th minute, have fun getting katy or pwerfer before 11-14min mark.
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Have fun building wurframen as your first vehicle unit MVGame. I hope you do that if we meet online and are opponents.
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It's not to durable, it's a HT, it's as durable as the other HT's. the Werfer and Katyusha should be brought up to the Stuka's health, and acceleration.
The Stuka has double the acceleration of both the Werfer and Kat.
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That's why it's UP and it should have more hp
It's not only 15 more it's almost double with the lower fuel income.
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well, it is not susceptible to small arms fire as much as katyusha so it must be fine following your logic. and priest should also have 160hp and killable solely by a fallschrimjaeger alone
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To me that sounds like it would just wipe more. Is the damage currently 80 or 160? If it was 80 I could get behind bigger AOE, but as of now the scatter is just overnerfed trash in my opinion, onloy effective if you get the panzerwerfer within 30-40 range of the area you want to hit. The cooldown also seriously needs to be reduced by 10-15 seconds.
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