OST Panzerwerfer: Truly Underpowered

Jump back to quoted post19 Mar 2015, 23:13 PMKatitof

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Jump back to quoted post19 Mar 2015, 22:37 PMszalmazsak

it isnot, youre just bad with it.

also do you know what works well against blob? a hmg..

and pro tip: dont use mortal, it is waste of time and resources.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:03 AMAustralian Magic

Its the most potent mobile arty but comes with T4 and requires micro while Stuka or katy does not. Get close behind shot blocker or smoke area ahead, shot at blob, blob will vanish.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:11 AMAlexzandvar

What? Not every map has shot blockers, and the Kat and Pwerf have horrible acceleration and pathing leading to both being very difficult to keep alive in very close quarters.

Not to mention the rockets don't hit instantly either, and to hit something you need to get right up close and reduce the scatter on it, meaning you won't be able to hit the entire blob.

It's a catch 22 situation, why does a rocket artillery HT need to be right in in front of an enemy to hit it? It's rocket artillery, it should be a medium range unit, not a literal ass sniffing range unit.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:15 AMAustralian Magic

U did not say its the Best but most potent.
You dont need shot blocker - smoke.

Katy or Stuka wont provide such wiping power, but can be used at distance.

On the minimum range werfer is the Best one but its really hard to get so close.

Just right now we had inside clan game. I made werfer. 3 squads of Rifles just vanished but its really rare to use it on that range.

Yet the biggest problem is T4 which is completly useless cause of tech prices.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:18 AMAlexzandvar

Uh, you can shoot through smoke you know that right?

The Katyusha can easily wipe squads just like the Stuka, both have good AoE on the rockets and you can reasonably target were those rockets can go at mid range. But the werfer doesn't have any less scatter at close than the Katyusha, by the way.

I agree, honestly the Werf needs an improvement or needs to be moved to T3 like it originally wise.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:22 AMAustralian Magic

Stop acting like you were stupid. Of course you can shoot but it requires action. Jackson wont do it itself.

With katy you can react between volleys so its not wiping like werfer. You can retreat or try soft retreat. With werfer you dont have time to react. Full wipe or miss cause blob moved.

Recently Im seeing many blobber who are taking points with whole blob. Pure paradise for katy. Just this damn T4..

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:26 AMdaspoulos

Katy wipes a lot more than werfer I'll tell you that.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:27 AMAlexzandvar

You have plenty of time to move out of the way of the werf due to the extra bullshit it has to go through.

Think about it for a second, you are going through much MUCH more effort to use a pwerf than a stuka.

1. First have to clear the area of enemies
2. Set of defensive line
3. Position the HT
4. stop the enemy some way or keep him still in some way
5. fire
6. hope he doesn't move


The cone of effect on the barrage at close range allows it to hit, but only in that area. If you use it farther away you won't hit anything, if you use it close you need to pin the enemy down because your area of effect won't be big enough to catch him if he moves a little bit.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:30 AMAlexzandvar

The fix here is fairly simple, reduce the price or what tier it comes in, or just revert the rockets it fires back to the original amount.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:38 AMLSDuffy

You guys are forgetting that the pwerfer has an MG. Does the katty have one? It is designed as a close combat vehicle, it loves to hold the front line with it's MG.

Clearly a learn to play issue, just use it as an alternative to the Ostheer MG bunkers or standard MG42s.

Your opponent will soon surrender once he realises your tactical genius. Working as intendededededed

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2015, 00:34 AMpigsoup

and those two/three are relic's only options?