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Semoskiy

Most unblanced map in game?
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Total votes: 52
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13 Feb 2015, 15:59 PM
#1
avatar of John Doe

Posts: 75

Why is this map still included in auto match list?
13 Feb 2015, 16:03 PM
#2
avatar of Australian Magic

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South spawn for Allies, Kubel and truck at the bridge - good luck.
I have both verions of Semoskiy in my veto list.
13 Feb 2015, 16:06 PM
#3
avatar of Mittens
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Posts: 1276

It needs to be adjusted but I wouldn't call it the MOST unbalanced. The problem is the funnels of the map but the center of the map is interesting but yes it does need fixed.

Idk what I would change tho
13 Feb 2015, 16:08 PM
#4
avatar of bananajuic3

Posts: 11

semiosky summer is working on 2v2 more than 1v1 cause players dont lose presence on the field so fast, but its in my 1v1 veto too and winter is annoying due to that much of deep snow but working
13 Feb 2015, 16:16 PM
#5
avatar of Nuclear Arbitor
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Posts: 2470

the most unbalanced is rostov.
13 Feb 2015, 16:19 PM
#6
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If any map is imbalanced its the north side of moscow outskirts. The cutoff point is closer to the middle and is narrow and easy for mgs to lock down, while the fuel point has buildings that can lock it down with 1 mg. (maxims by far the easiest to plop in there.
13 Feb 2015, 16:25 PM
#7
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Just going to say that both Semoskiy's are my most hates maps of all time. For these two reasons:

1. Terrible cut-offs and resource layout.
2. A total mess of buildings in the centre, coupled with a ton of green cover makes it very advantageous towards close quarters combat fighting and therefore allied favoured as both rifles and conscripts work best close range compared to volks and grens which work best at longer ranges.
14 Feb 2015, 12:37 PM
#8
avatar of VindicareX
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Posts: 312

Just going to say that both Semoskiy's are my most hates maps of all time. For these two reasons:

1. Terrible cut-offs and resource layout.
2. A total mess of buildings in the centre, coupled with a ton of green cover makes it very advantageous towards close quarters combat fighting and therefore allied favoured as both rifles and conscripts work best close range compared to volks and grens which work best at longer ranges.


This.

It's only slightly better than maps like Le Gleize or Stalingrad. The resources are particularly hard to hold because there's no real defensive position to take to hold them that doesn't involve you giving up another important cut off. Very allied favored.
14 Feb 2015, 12:41 PM
#9
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should have included all maps as options and let people pick what they think is the most unbalanced map in coh2. you would have learned far more valuable information that way.
14 Feb 2015, 13:42 PM
#10
avatar of John Doe

Posts: 75

A general poll was already created by the devs. It's about semoskiy. The poll question could have been more specific though.

"Is semoskiy a balanced map?"
14 Feb 2015, 13:57 PM
#11
avatar of RandomName

Posts: 431

Its my favourite map. On of the few maps where onmap howitzers are not hopeless. Better veto Vaux Fenceland, Rzev, Hürtgen and Lineurx or whatever this is called.
14 Feb 2015, 14:21 PM
#12
avatar of NEVEC

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This is nice map but in 2v2 bottom side have clear advantage.
14 Feb 2015, 20:43 PM
#13
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A general poll was already created by the devs. It's about semoskiy. The poll question could have been more specific though.

"Is semoskiy a balanced map?"


You do realise that Semois was considered the ultimate map in vCoH (1v1)?
14 Feb 2015, 21:01 PM
#14
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

Its a map designed for a whole different game.

Its quite obvious that only result will be a HORRIBLE map.

OKW paradise with their trucks and wires and awful to play as any other faction.

@MajorBloodnok
Black people having no rights was also considered most awesome thing of the time back then.
Past doesn't translate on current times well.
14 Feb 2015, 21:14 PM
#15
avatar of MoerserKarL
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Feb 2015, 21:01 PMKatitof


OKW paradise with their trucks and wires and awful to play as any other faction.



really? Perfect for shocks,cons, 120mm and katjuscha. I would prefer soviets on this map any time :p
14 Feb 2015, 21:20 PM
#16
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Feb 2015, 21:01 PMKatitof
Its a map designed for a whole different game.

Its quite obvious that only result will be a HORRIBLE map.


You have the gift of foresight, K? :o I quite understand ;)

OKW paradise with their trucks and wires and awful to play as any other faction.


Unless I misunderstand it, asa result of the recent patch, OKW trucks can no longer demolish buildings?

@MajorBloodnok
Black people having no rights was also considered most awesome thing of the time back then.
Past doesn't translate on current times well.


I have some sense of history, and I think I know where you may be coming from as regards ethnicity- but honestly, discussions about acceptance of ethnic minorities, do not fit well into a discussion about maps (IMO).

And so, back to Semois . Clearly, the map had to change, bcs of the new factions - and lo! it was changed...no nearby, near sacrosanct muni points.
14 Feb 2015, 21:30 PM
#17
avatar of HeWhoMustNotBeNamed

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i think it was better in coh1, felt bigger maybe.
14 Feb 2015, 22:11 PM
#18
avatar of John Doe

Posts: 75



Unless I misunderstand it, asa result of the recent patch, OKW trucks can no longer demolish buildings?


I guess he is referring to forward Med/Flak HQs:
14 Feb 2015, 22:31 PM
#19
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

You do realise that Semois was considered the ultimate map in vCoH (1v1)?

You do realise this isn't vCoH? :P


Unless I misunderstand it, as a result of the recent patch, OKW trucks can no longer demolish buildings?

They set up trucks in town and around cutoffs, making attacking the town extremely difficult and resource harassment a non-option.
14 Feb 2015, 23:19 PM
#20
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

i think it was better in coh1, felt bigger maybe.

That is because it was bigger.
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