Tiger or Panther?

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 18:40 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

Once a Panther reaches vet 2 it has even more armor + 160HP (960 in total; not much less than a Tiger)

As I've already said, Panthers are more AT and Tigers are more allround tanks. I don't know why you are arguing with me now.

Why would I engage AT guns with tanks? I have my infantry for that.

Yes, 3 Tigers can wreck an entire army, but so can IS-2s, and those IS-2s will make your Tigers cry for their moms.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 09:20 AMausterlitz

So i've been playing 4 vs 4s a lot more lately,since ost is helpless in 1 vs1 and relatively weak in 2 vs 2.So my question..in these large game modes panther is not inaccesible..so what do you prefer t2-t4 for panther or t2 to tiger or t3 to tiger?
Is ur choice influenced by opponents?
When choosing panther would u always take a smoke doctrine?
I find myself using panther with festung armor against opponents heavy in soviet.And tiger vs american heavy team.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 19:35 PMtiburon680

I kwon that the Panther is a good tank but Tiger is a Heavy Tank don't try to make the Panther better than the Tiger because isn't better just are good tanks.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 19:41 PMNinjaWJ

Actually Panther is easily accessible in 4v4, since map control is not as important. You can easily go T1 - T4 and still rock.

As Ostheer, you play a more support role in 4v4. You can always go more offensive/carry role too, but OKW can do that very well. It all depends on what you want to do, and what map. Obviously, soe doctrines do not have a Tiger.

It is up to you really. Panther does not have as good AI as TIger but it has more range. It still is decent versus infantry though with its machine guns.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 19:35 PMtiburon680

I kwon that the Panther is a good tank but Tiger is a Heavy Tank don't try to make the Panther better than the Tiger because isn't better just are good tanks.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 20:01 PMOmega_Warrior

4v4? You can pull a T4 rush easy even in 2v2. Between Paks and schreks it's really not that hard to hold out.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 20:21 PMNinjaWJ

oh i was just responding to the OP. Austerlitz said that panther is inaccessible in 4v4.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 20:17 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

The status of being a heavy tank doesn't make it any better. In fact, the Panther is also a heavy tank ingame. At least it uses the heavy tank skin.

The Panther is more mobile, and is better against tanks. At vet 2 both have almost the same HP value.

The Tiger has more AI power; less AT power. It's probably a matter of taste.

If you think the Tiger is better, fine, I don't like it so much. Especially because it usually loses against IS-2s.

The fact that it doesn't get 350 armor with vet also makes it dangerous to be used against Jacksons.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2015, 07:11 AMJpHetzer

This is crucial, because a skilled opponent can basically render a Tiger unable to lead an attack by having some cheap infantry advance while a TD like a Jackson engages from the FoW (driving backwards, if needed).

Jump back to quoted post10 Jan 2015, 20:01 PMOmega_Warrior

4v4? You can pull a T4 rush easy even in 2v2. Between Paks and schreks it's really not that hard to hold out.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2015, 08:35 AMsteel

If a person goes T1-T2-T4 in 2v2, he's putting himself in a poor situation. It would have worked last time when panthers were cheaper, but currently? Nope. You're more likely to see OKW panther instead of Ost panther in 2v2.




If someone can do that and still win, either the Allied players made a significant amount of mistakes or the Ost players are very good with the faction.