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Quick Question: Which builletins stack now, and which don't?

5 Jan 2015, 18:31 PM
#1
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Or as a specific question, if you happen to know, do the Ostwind surpression bulletins stack?
Thanks!
5 Jan 2015, 18:44 PM
#2
avatar of Glendizzle

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Supposedly everything except armor stacks. I've gleaned this from other posts... so the ostwind should according to what I've been told.
5 Jan 2015, 18:48 PM
#3
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well triple volks -10% suppression doesnt seem to have any effect so Im not sure
5 Jan 2015, 21:26 PM
#4
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Veterancy, Range, Cost Reduction, and Rate of Fire bulletins stack. I'm not sure anything else since they're not really possible to test in-game and I don't know where to find the code for them, late alone try to read it.

I've heard that armour does not stack, which makes sense to me because if it did you could in theory get a Panzer IV with more armour than a Jagdpanzer or Sturmpanzer.
5 Jan 2015, 21:34 PM
#5
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and 3x5% faster reload time for panther?
5 Jan 2015, 21:39 PM
#6
avatar of Hogman512

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The problem is, there is so much conflicting information on this, its near impossible to tell, unless its a cost reduction bulletin. Hell, even Relic don't seem to be able to reliably answer the question.

The game shows multiple of the same bulletin in load out, but during the game the extra bulletins won't show, just 1 will show (if you have 3 identical ones), which leads me to think that they don't. But there are plenty of ones that do stack, because its obvious, as I say - cost reduction ones.
5 Jan 2015, 21:40 PM
#7
avatar of Lichtbringer

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After testing it a little bit, it seems like the Ostwind bulletin stacks.
With 2 the Ostwind surpressed after a full burst (sometimes at the beginning of second), with only 1 it took around 4 bursts o_O

But it could have been a number of different reasons, was just a qick test against AI.
5 Jan 2015, 21:47 PM
#8
avatar of Cruzz

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Every bulletin should stack. There's 5 which most likely won't because they weren't changed along with the rest of the bulletins when they were last fixing them:

T34/85 armor
IG18 ability recharge
Ostwind Armor
Stug E armor
WFA 4% sherman/Panther armor will not stack on sherman but will on panther
5 Jan 2015, 22:06 PM
#9
avatar of WhySooSerious

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Cruzz the enlightener Kreygasm and I think the volk suppression bulletins reduce AoE suppression received so that kind of means that you can blob rush with those suppression bulletins.
6 Jan 2015, 07:01 AM
#10
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Jan 2015, 21:47 PMCruzz
T34/85 armor
IG18 ability recharge
Ostwind Armor
Stug E armor
WFA 4% sherman/Panther armor will not stack on sherman but will on panther


Does Panzer IV armour stack? (both factions)
6 Jan 2015, 09:17 AM
#11
avatar of austerlitz

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I think all bulletins stack,because relic themselves aren't sure which ones do and which don't and can't be bothered to test each and find out.
6 Jan 2015, 09:19 AM
#12
avatar of Cruzz

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Does Panzer IV armour stack? (both factions)


:facepalm:

I just said those were the only 5 that won't. Jesus.
6 Jan 2015, 09:22 AM
#13
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jan 2015, 09:19 AMCruzz


:facepalm:

I just said those were the only 5 that won't. Jesus.


To be fair, you said "should", which let room for error :)
6 Jan 2015, 09:44 AM
#14
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jan 2015, 09:22 AMSlaYoU


To be fair, you said "should", which let room for error :)


Because I haven't tested it, and I'm sure as hell not gonna either. There is no reason in the game files why any of the bulletins other than the ones I mentioned wouldn't stack.
6 Jan 2015, 10:06 AM
#15
avatar of SlaYoU

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Ok, thanks for the data :)
6 Jan 2015, 10:48 AM
#16
avatar of austerlitz

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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jan 2015, 09:19 AMCruzz


:facepalm:

I just said those were the only 5 that won't. Jesus.


How are you sure?Will tiger/panther or is-2 armor bulletins stack for example?
6 Jan 2015, 12:32 PM
#17
avatar of TNrg

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I think the volk suppression bulletins reduce AoE suppression received so that kind of means that you can blob rush with those suppression bulletins.


That kind of bulletins shouldn't exist. They just encourage more bad play instead of tactics / strategy... ffs
6 Jan 2015, 12:33 PM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jan 2015, 12:32 PMTNrg


That kind of bulletins shouldn't exist. They just encourage more bad play instead of tactics / strategy... ffs
+1
6 Jan 2015, 13:08 PM
#19
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well triple volks -10% suppression doesnt seem to have any effect so Im not sure


I have testet that Stuka cooldown bulletine does not stack

So i think that maybe other bulletins like "3% less cool down" do the same but im not sure, just my scrub opinion.
6 Jan 2015, 13:19 PM
#20
avatar of Cruzz

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I have testet that Stuka cooldown bulletine does not stack


Amazing testing, you pick a bulletin that you can see the effect of by firing a single time with and without bulletins and then still fail at deducing the correct result.

~112 seconds cooldown after barrage with 0 bulletins
~95 seconds cooldown after barrage with 3 bulletins

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