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Sure I'll grant you that.
But B-4 has shorter max range and only one chance RNG will bless you.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
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If i read the stats correctly, both the ml-20 and the B4 have the same range (250).
Could you provide me with the source that states that the B4 has shorter range?
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Im not saying the B-4 isn't strong, Im saying it is neither gamebreaking nor overpowering, and while it being a strong unit, like many others it needs special care taken inorder to negate it and finally destroy it.
But I get the underlying problem you all are getting to. The squadwipes you just cannot avoid. You play great, everything is going alright and suddenly, close to no warning BAM fully vetted squad(s) are gone, scream REELLICCC all you want and blame the game, but you have some responsibility too.
I believe this perceived design flaw stems from an attempt by relic to allow for combacks and avoid a snowballing infantry. Right or wrong thats why we see alot of weapons with great wiping potential. And the only way to remove these units and wiping potential completely would be redoing the game.
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And yet despite the alleged game breakingness of this unit, it doesn't seem to be any more popular than it was pre-WFA
http://www.coh2.org/topic/28920/uses-for-unloved-units-end-year-update
Sure I'll grant you that.
But B-4 has shorter max range and only one chance RNG will bless you.
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Popularity by achievements is kinda silly. Its a doctrinal unit on a premium commander, this means less people would have it.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Popularity by achievements is kinda silly. Its a doctrinal unit on a premium commander, this means less people would have it.
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I think it's pretty clear by now that the "Angy Bears" have a certain agenda in mind with these posts, and may I add, that agenda is obviously not a a balanced game.
And yes, please provide us with a proper replay of you guys playing as axis vs. skilled allied opponents using B-4. No map veto, no stuka dive bomb. Go ahead and surprise this community. At the moment you are just making fools out of yourselves.
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- It is war. Units die.
- The B4 operates on gold ammo. At 600 MP, +time to Vet 1, +Gold ammo, +The limitless counters I consider this unit balanced.
- A players laziness to change and adapt to the battlefield conditions does not mean a unit is OP.
- See a Recon plane? Move your expensive units.
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Not sure if just stupid or trolling...
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If i read the stats correctly, both the ml-20 and the B4 have the same range (250).
Could you provide me with the source that states that the B4 has shorter range?
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Did you just call our most Bearific President stupid?
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Yes. The Angry Bears do have an agenda. We are tired of our primary game mode (4's and 3's) being ignored by Relic and the community at large. I formed the Angry Bears during the small weapons profiles introduction patch. You want to talk balanced game? I lived through 'the balance' and created the largest, most active CoH2 clan.
In regards to the B-4 discussion it is following the common posting trend of the forum right now. "Indirect fire unit XXX killed my unit please nerf" threads are the new Kublewagon threads.
- It is war. Units die.
- The B4 operates on gold ammo. At 600 MP, +time to Vet 1, +Gold ammo, +The limitless counters I consider this unit balanced.
- A players laziness to change and adapt to the battlefield conditions does not mean a unit is OP.
- See a Recon plane? Move your expensive units.
As per your replay request, get out. No map vetos? No use of Stuka bombs? You must not have much experience in the 4's game mode. Our normal 4's Axis kit always includes Air superiority or any another of the doctrines with a off map artillery ability.
Get used to seeing our signatures most often. We are large. We are Bears and we are very angry.
(PS: Priests > ML-20 > B4 > LeFH)
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The fact that you are referring to your clan's 4vs4 commander kits just shows me that you are evading the challenge here. Try 2vs2 without the aforementioned Stuka dive bomb perk and let us know how you handled the equally skilled Allied team. For that you would have to play Axis for a change though and leave your comfortable 3v3 or 4vs4 experience.
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