JU-87 Strafe shredding tanks.
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If ju87 gets nerfed p47 needs to be as well. I prefer toning both of them down for a cost reduction.
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How about no? It still arrives 3x slower than P-47's or IL-2's. It's fine as it is considering it can only kill Allied medium tanks that are neglected or ignored in placement.
Erm... no it doesnt.
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How about no? It still arrives 3x slower than P-47's or IL-2's. It's fine as it is considering it can only kill Allied medium tanks that are neglected or ignored in placement.
If by "arrives 3x slower" you meant "exactly at the same time" then you are right.
Also, IL-2 doesn't wipe any infantry anymore unless its low on hp and it does nothing to vehicles.
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Schrage musik? I would love to see it shoot things below it.
Unless I am mistaken, Schrage music pointed upwards - into the soft, unseeing underbelly...
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I think he is talking about the HE-177 not the DO-217.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_177#Experimental_weapon_loads
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I know. It's just the guy said DO-217 which had the 4x 20mm MG151 pointed upwards (quad cannons), hence, the tongue smiley( I really don't know what to call it).
Unless I am mistaken, Schrage music pointed upwards - into the soft, unseeing underbelly...
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It a at loitering AT air support, If its too good vs infantry make it target tanks only.
If it dose end up getting nerfed (I think its fine tbh if anything increase cost to 230) Don't touch the CAS one it's finally good and can be dodged by moving the tank.
Or just bring IL-2 up to its level, nothing wrong with that.
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Well, I just had this used on me and man is it cheap! My Jackson took 1 hit from KT and then the stuka instantly destroyed it, while the Jackson was on the reverse. The p47 is more expensive, dodgeable, and delivers the damage slower over time. This ability needs an adjustment. I'm not against it doing it's job, but this level of accuracy and damage is beyond the p47. If we are ok with this, that's fine, but the p47 needs to meet or exceed this accuracy and damage, considering higher costs. When I launch a p47 attack, I expect some damage will be done, but mostly I want to cause confusion and drown out the other players sounds. That I seem to be able to count on. If I could count on every rocket landing on the armor target, things would be so much easier. The rockets will miss even stationary targets. So, there is a large performance divide between these attacks now. Here is the replay of me getting wtfpwned and ironically a mega fail p47 strike that barely did anything in a a battle between 2 jacksons and 2 panzerIV (hint: Jacksons lost )
So to sum up that first sentence:
"One of the strongest tanks in the game 50% damaged my tank, one of the most squishy tanks in the game and then a >>AT STRAFE<< finished off my low tank"
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Well, I just had this used on me and man is it cheap! My Jackson took 1 hit from KT and then the stuka instantly destroyed it, while the Jackson was on the reverse. The p47 is more expensive, dodgeable, and delivers the damage slower over time. This ability needs an adjustment. I'm not against it doing it's job, but this level of accuracy and damage is beyond the p47. If we are ok with this, that's fine, but the p47 needs to meet or exceed this accuracy and damage, considering higher costs. When I launch a p47 attack, I expect some damage will be done, but mostly I want to cause confusion and drown out the other players sounds. That I seem to be able to count on. If I could count on every rocket landing on the armor target, things would be so much easier. The rockets will miss even stationary targets. So, there is a large performance divide between these attacks now. Here is the replay of me getting wtfpwned and ironically a mega fail p47 strike that barely did anything in a a battle between 2 jacksons and 2 panzerIV (hint: Jacksons lost )
so after getting shot at by the heaviest tank the axis got in coh2 you suspect it to survive an attack with a 200 munitions ability? in my humble opinion an ability that wasnt able to kill a jackson that was shot by an KT is not worth bothering with at all (at a cost of 200 ammo that is)
i havent seen it being used that often though
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The issue is not that I lost my jackson. The issue is the difference between the plane attacks. We have a 200mu non-dodgeable attack and a 240mu dodgeable attack. Something is wrong.
reverse and get out of the area. Yes it is dodgeable.
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Imagine every time I play US I go airborn because, I know that in the late game the only thing that can save me if I fucked up during the game is the P47.
That is the problem, J87 and P47 are ok. But Ostheer will survive if they do not choose J87 commandeer, while in other hand P47 is only solution that reliable against Axis Heavies
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They do hell of a damage and penetrate quite often. In addition they have a huge range. It's like a better and stronger Puma.
Without this it would just be the same boring and repetive gameplay in all 4 factions.
Every Lategame would consinst of spamming those tanks:
Tiger, King Tiger/Jagdtiger, IS2/ISU, *Insert US heavy here*...
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reverse and get out of the area. Yes it is dodgeable.
Not really, played a 2v2 yesterday (as axis) my mate used the Ju87 on a reversing Jackson. The Jackson iirc had full health, although reversing, the Jackson got hit by the Ju87 and ended up with 10% HP remaining and an enigne critical.
So ya, after seeing this ability in action for a while, i agree it needs either a dmg reduction or accuracy nerf.
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