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Sherman pintle gunner upgrade price decrease

Sherman Pintle gunner price is:
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All Pintle gunners should have the same price over all factions
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Vaz
3 Nov 2014, 11:10 AM
#1
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Reduce to 50 munitions to match other pintle gunners. This is not something that is of any benefit to asymmetrical balance. All pintle gunners should be matched in munitions cost as they are all really good. Right now Sherman gunner is 70 munitions.
3 Nov 2014, 11:16 AM
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Idk if they should be all the same price, cause, MUH AYSMETRIC BALANCE, but the Shermans pintle upgrade def needs a price drop.
nee
3 Nov 2014, 13:05 PM
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Is the Sherman pintle at least more effective to reflect and justify the increased price? Because if not, then reduction in cost is needed. Even 60 instead of 70 is fine, that plus 10 munitions isn't going to net you two bazookas or another airstrike.
3 Nov 2014, 14:45 PM
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It has better penetration, making it a pretty effective weapon vs sws halftracks, stukas, pumas, etc. I've had shermans barely survive engagements vs pumas because the machine gun finished them off just in time.

I don't necessarily think that means it should cost 70 munitions but it's something to keep in mind.
4 Nov 2014, 08:36 AM
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It also has higher DPS than it's MG 42 counterpart.

Plus, the Sherman has HE Shells with good effect.
4 Nov 2014, 09:07 AM
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It also has higher DPS than it's MG 42 counterpart.

Plus, the Sherman has HE Shells with good effect.


http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/mg42_turret_mounted_pziv_mp

http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/sherman_m10_m36_m2hb_50cal_mounted_tank_mp

Assuming these are the correct profiles, the P4 MG-42 does more DPS at long and point blank range than the Sherman .50 cal.

The HE shells should have no impact on the price of the top gunner upgrade so no idea why you even mentioned that.


Should just normalize all the top gunners at 60 imo, no idea why some are 50 and some are 70
4 Nov 2014, 22:15 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Nov 2014, 14:45 PMRomeo
It has better penetration, making it a pretty effective weapon vs sws halftracks, stukas, pumas, etc. I've had shermans barely survive engagements vs pumas because the machine gun finished them off just in time.

I don't necessarily think that means it should cost 70 munitions but it's something to keep in mind.


Well thats because pumas are the most effective at for the price , you dont expect an m10 to beat a p4 from the front now do you ? but the 50cal top gun seems to be less effctive than the mg42 top gun for its intended purpose. THey could give it better anti infantry stats and add an armor piercing rounds for 20 munis or something
Vaz
4 Nov 2014, 22:34 PM
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You can't take the HE rounds into consideration, because this is not a pzIV vs Sherman thread. This is ALL pintle gunners. pzIV, stugIII, panthers, brumbar, IS2, Tiger, ISU152, KT, Sherman, etc. Each faction has at least 1. The sherman HE's anti-infantry is still bested by Tiger and Tiger has a pintle gunner too. So the main gun has nothing to do with this.
5 Nov 2014, 08:25 AM
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that depends. if you're arguing that a strong pintle plus the HE rounds makes shermans too powerful against infantry then it's valid. if you're arguing about the cost then it shouldn't be brought in because the main gun is not included in the cost of the pintle.
5 Nov 2014, 08:40 AM
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Should just normalize all the top gunners at 60 imo, no idea why some are 50 and some are 70


No, the soviet one shouldn't be 60 that is to cheap.
it is way better than the pintle mounted on sherman and mg-42.
but it is only on heavy tanks so it is fine.

http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/dshk_38_pintle_mounted_tank_mp
Vaz
6 Nov 2014, 18:59 PM
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that depends. if you're arguing that a strong pintle plus the HE rounds makes shermans too powerful against infantry then it's valid. if you're arguing about the cost then it shouldn't be brought in because the main gun is not included in the cost of the pintle.


I think that is something for a different thread, as that is discussion about the tanks performance in that mode overall. This is just about cost, not performance. I think performance of HE rounds or pintle (on any tank) can be discussed in a different thread.
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