From when the game came out, to the current patch now, what is everyones thoughts on guards. Fond memmories when they were only 1cp.
I plan on trying new tactics until conscripts stop having there annoying receaved acc % on them.
Have Guard Rifles aged well?
2 Nov 2014, 23:56 PM
#1
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3 Nov 2014, 01:39 AM
#2
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They are not very good, but have some uses here and there. Going T1 means that you will probably need guards to cover you form light vehicles. Button is ok in some situations but got nerfed hard. They cost a lot to reinforce and take a long time to reinforce as well. I use the, every game though because i go ISU nearly all the time
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
3 Nov 2014, 01:55 AM
#3
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Are they still ehh vs inf?
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3 Nov 2014, 02:25 AM
#4
Posts: 94
They suck anus IMO.
3 Nov 2014, 15:45 PM
#5
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as an axies player im always glad to see guards because it means i dont have to deal with shocks.
as a soviet player i hardly ever use them.
they do okish vs standard units but unless you can land one of their pretty good grenades they will bleed you for a lot of manpower vs good infantery.
they have their use vs light vehicles if you spend the extra mun and button is still nice to have but to me its not worth it.
light vehicles can also be fought with anit tank nades and mines if you dont have a zis available.
as a soviet player i hardly ever use them.
they do okish vs standard units but unless you can land one of their pretty good grenades they will bleed you for a lot of manpower vs good infantery.
they have their use vs light vehicles if you spend the extra mun and button is still nice to have but to me its not worth it.
light vehicles can also be fought with anit tank nades and mines if you dont have a zis available.
3 Nov 2014, 16:14 PM
#6
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Sounds like relic still hasent changed there cost (or renforcement cost) to there performance. Damn shame.
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3 Nov 2014, 16:22 PM
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Guards are more accurate with mosins than any other squad, and their DP-28´s do good dps, but....they turn to weapon pinatas and trying to stay at long range for the dps is just asking for an rifle grenade/mg suppression
Maybe their VET will save them, but they will get outgunned by Obersoldaten if there is any...
( their mosin is "almost" as good as Gren Kar 98k
http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/guards_troops_mosin_nagant_rifle_mp
http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/grenadier_kar_98k_rifle_mp )
Maybe their VET will save them, but they will get outgunned by Obersoldaten if there is any...
( their mosin is "almost" as good as Gren Kar 98k
http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/guards_troops_mosin_nagant_rifle_mp
http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/grenadier_kar_98k_rifle_mp )
3 Nov 2014, 21:56 PM
#8
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How much is it to renforce them again?
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3 Nov 2014, 22:43 PM
#9
Posts: 79
The mini game of "drop your PTRS, but hold onto your lmg" is always good fun.
22 Nov 2014, 10:41 AM
#10
Posts: 344
They suck currently and smoke screen make them useless.
22 Nov 2014, 10:52 AM
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They suck currently and smoke screen make them useless.
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22 Nov 2014, 16:40 PM
#12
Posts: 344
They would be a bit better if the player could choose to buy PTRS and/or DP lmg for ammo, like in Theater of War missions.
22 Nov 2014, 16:48 PM
#13
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They would be a bit better if the player could choose to buy PTRS and/or DP lmg for ammo, like in Theater of War missions.
The problem with that idea is that everyone would just buy DP-28 since PTRS is useless.
If gaurd drops their PTRS currently, it's actually a good thing for them because they gain quite a bit of anti infantry for that.
24 Nov 2014, 07:14 AM
#14
Posts: 2070
I avoid picking up PTRS like the plague
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
24 Nov 2014, 08:11 AM
#15
Posts: 647
i think they are still one of the best infantry soviets have to offer. combined with fighting positions, guards are quite devastating against okw but fail badly against grens.
dont get me wrong, they need help definitely, maybe dp get fotm, better squad ai so they dont jump all over the place when ordered to attack. also they could be a little more tankier, like a innate 15% reduction in received accuracy fresh.
dont get me wrong, they need help definitely, maybe dp get fotm, better squad ai so they dont jump all over the place when ordered to attack. also they could be a little more tankier, like a innate 15% reduction in received accuracy fresh.
25 Nov 2014, 16:47 PM
#16
Posts: 33
Guards rely too much in heavy cover and DP's to be effective. They are good against early light vehicles and to support your tanks against enemy tanks, but as button is near to useless I wouldn't recommend them right now.
And they are, as already stated, walking weapon boxes.
And they are, as already stated, walking weapon boxes.
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28 Nov 2014, 19:50 PM
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Posts: 344
Why they were nerfed? Soviets don't have any other AT inf...
They were really useful with button ability to support AT guns and tanks, now they are broken and useless. Button don't work at all on Panthers and when I used it on a Pz IV it killed 4 of 6 of my Guards models with the first shot, because tanks can now shoot while buttoned.
They don't deserve to be a call-in unit in the current state, compared to Shock Troops...
They were really useful with button ability to support AT guns and tanks, now they are broken and useless. Button don't work at all on Panthers and when I used it on a Pz IV it killed 4 of 6 of my Guards models with the first shot, because tanks can now shoot while buttoned.
They don't deserve to be a call-in unit in the current state, compared to Shock Troops...
28 Nov 2014, 21:00 PM
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Permanently BannedWhy guards nade are 45 ammo ?
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1 Dec 2014, 19:18 PM
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Because it id best AI granate in the game?
1 Dec 2014, 22:43 PM
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Posts: 344
rifle grenade is better
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