Played a few games last night after the patch and hotfix. Couple of things I noticed right off the bat:
My panzer 4 was wiping squads LIKE CRAZY. It one shot a full 6 man con squad, then a 5 man mortar squad. This might be because models are bunching up more? Either way, not good man, not good.
OKW flak halftrack is just as insane as in the beta. One full burst and full health rifleman squad is wiped. Again, not good.
Post patch unit performance observations
30 Oct 2014, 14:41 PM
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30 Oct 2014, 14:47 PM
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This was a much needed change. Sherman had no chance against shreck-wereckers, but with HE it's much more useful now.
The flak HT is still inaccurate and only effective on open maps.
The flak HT is still inaccurate and only effective on open maps.
30 Oct 2014, 14:51 PM
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I'm still assuming RNG, but today my P4 1-shot a gren squad that I'd just parked in green cover right in front of it. Actually really liked seeing that happen because it was a stupid place to stand, and it was one of those rare squad wipes that looked totally right with the animations.
30 Oct 2014, 14:52 PM
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Didn't notice any difference with my T34/76. Still needed to crush a Volksgren squad that was out in the open after not killing a single model in 4 shots while not moving.
30 Oct 2014, 15:28 PM
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This is in line with my experiences from the 1v1s I've done today. I had a P4 kill 4 out of 5 riflemen in an almost full health squad, all with a single shot. I'm not sure if this is a good change or not, but it's definitely a huge one.
30 Oct 2014, 15:33 PM
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Since units clump up more now, it's only logical that they get now more often wiped by anything that has a large enough aoe.
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30 Oct 2014, 15:33 PM
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Also noticed that you have to be careful about how you position your troops because they can sort of clump in a small space for gernades.
30 Oct 2014, 15:44 PM
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didn't the flaktruck get a ninja buff in the previous patch
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
30 Oct 2014, 15:54 PM
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didn't the flaktruck get a ninja buff in the previous patch
Patch notes from oct, 29th:
"Projectile Tuning
Modified the behavior of tp_homing_inf projectiles to not collide with a number of world objects such as bushes or light fences. In effect, this change will increase the strength of any weapon using this projectile type. This will impact the reliability of hand held AT like the Bazooka and flak weaponry like the Ostwind or 251 Flak Half-track. These weapon types will no longer continuously hit world objects, thereby missing their targets."
30 Oct 2014, 16:42 PM
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Patch notes from oct, 29th:
"Projectile Tuning
Modified the behavior of tp_homing_inf projectiles to not collide with a number of world objects such as bushes or light fences. In effect, this change will increase the strength of any weapon using this projectile type. This will impact the reliability of hand held AT like the Bazooka and flak weaponry like the Ostwind or 251 Flak Half-track. These weapon types will no longer continuously hit world objects, thereby missing their targets."
I think the suppression values went up.
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
30 Oct 2014, 17:06 PM
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This is in line with my experiences from the 1v1s I've done today. I had a P4 kill 4 out of 5 riflemen in an almost full health squad, all with a single shot. I'm not sure if this is a good change or not, but it's definitely a huge one.
If the P4 is going to be so god-like at killing infantry is there ANY reason to buy an Ostwind anymore? Apart from being paranoid of P47 strikes?
30 Oct 2014, 17:10 PM
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I think the suppression values went up.
Nah the flak HT could always suppress very fast, it's jsut that it never hit so suppression was low
30 Oct 2014, 17:11 PM
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don't blob l2play
30 Oct 2014, 17:11 PM
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I think it has to do with units clumping up more with the new cover mechanics
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
30 Oct 2014, 17:23 PM
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panzerIV has always been capable of this, it's nothing new. Are some of you saying you've never had your infantry squad instantly destroyed by a panzerIV? It's a good tank.
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
30 Oct 2014, 17:39 PM
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Tiger wipes infantry like crazy
30 Oct 2014, 17:42 PM
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T34/76 just one shotted my Obersoldaten squad 
But that's ok, since the input lag is now shorter, its always upon you to dodge nades or bypass tanks.
But that's ok, since the input lag is now shorter, its always upon you to dodge nades or bypass tanks.
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30 Oct 2014, 17:50 PM
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Nah the flak HT could always suppress very fast, it's jsut that it never hit so suppression was low
OKW Flak emplacements Stealth buff
Couple more:
OKW base & buildable flak emplacement accuracy increased by 8x (0.025 --> 0.2), suppression doubled
Rear echelons carbine shots until reload 8.5 --> 14 (very slight increase in DPS, slight increase in volley suppression)
Paratrooper carbine shots until reload 8.5 --> 14
Jagdtiger min range from 0 to 8, ISU min range from 5 to 7
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
30 Oct 2014, 17:55 PM
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Oh yeah you are right, i just confused the flack truck with teh flak halftrack
30 Oct 2014, 17:55 PM
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Early game is a little less ridiculous than Fisherprice's My First RTS now but it's still the case that the german player has already won at minute zero and it's solely your majestic skill playing ally that allows you to turn the game around and win against all odds.
5 OP OH tanks in front of your base
blow one up, slap it around
7 OP OH tanks in front of your base
blow one up, slap it around
7 OP OH tanks in front of your base
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