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23 Nov 2014, 14:28 PM
#501
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Also, NO INFANTRY can attack a well-placed HMG team head on, unless the said individual is pointing it in the opposite direction of the infantry.


This comment had me rolling!

Have u seen obers? They rape ALL TEAM WEAPONS

wait.. wait... WAIT

I dont think u are hearing me!

They can easily wipe all HMG's from the front at vet 0, even in green cover.

You lost all credibility with this comment, im sorry

If u want a replay to prove it? Trust me, it wont take long to prove you wrong
23 Nov 2014, 14:40 PM
#502
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Nov 2014, 14:20 PMKatitof


Just like ISU.


This comment is just non-sense. If Obers were able to destroy vehicles.....only then, they were OP like the ISU.
23 Nov 2014, 15:03 PM
#503
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This comment is just non-sense. If Obers were able to destroy vehicles.....only then, they were OP like the ISU.


Oh yea, people consider ISU op because it destroyes vehicles.

I forgot, thanks for reminding!


(that was sarcasm)
23 Nov 2014, 15:13 PM
#504
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Play Russians = profit
Vaz
23 Nov 2014, 15:58 PM
#505
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so if Obers are balanced, can we set that gun to drop at a rate of 100%?
23 Nov 2014, 16:10 PM
#506
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Nov 2014, 14:20 PMKatitof


Just like ISU.


nonono ISU is no balance but ober is yes
Vaz
23 Nov 2014, 16:18 PM
#507
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Is there a community with better trolls than ours?
23 Nov 2014, 16:21 PM
#508
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Nov 2014, 16:18 PMVaz
Is there a community with better trolls than ours?

Yes.

http://community.companyofheroes.com/

If by better you mean more self delusional and detached from reality that is.
23 Nov 2014, 16:22 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Nov 2014, 16:21 PMKatitof

Yes.

http://community.companyofheroes.com/

If by better you mean more self delusional and detached from reality that is.


LOL

Someone actually said tiger is UP :lolol:
Vaz
23 Nov 2014, 16:24 PM
#510
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I thought that place counted as ours, but I guess your right if it doesn't. LOL
23 Nov 2014, 16:48 PM
#511
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Yesterday I managed to get an MG-34 on my conscripts. At vet-3 they won a frontal engagement against a heavy MG-34. So yeah just an anecdote that points to the fact that the problem lies in the insane damage of the LMG-34
23 Nov 2014, 17:05 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Nov 2014, 15:03 PMKatitof


Oh yea, people consider ISU op because it destroyes vehicles.

I forgot, thanks for reminding!


(that was sarcasm)


The ISU is OP because it's effective against inf and tanks. If Obers were able to destroy vehicles in addition to their AI capability they'd be as OP as the ISU.

I never said, the ISU is OP because it's destroying tanks :loco:

If you don't understand what people say, don't answer. Thanks.
Vaz
23 Nov 2014, 17:08 PM
#513
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Obers can destroy vehicles, they just need to pick up a ptrs from gaurds, which they kill really fast.
23 Nov 2014, 17:18 PM
#514
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Meh , this thread is pointless now that even Dane agrees that obersoldaten are OP its fairly obvious that they will get nerfed in the next patch.
23 Nov 2014, 17:30 PM
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The ISU is OP because it's effective against inf and tanks. If Obers were able to destroy vehicles in addition to their AI capability they'd be as OP as the ISU.


Shrecked volk blob can and you can't fight obers without vehicles or sniper spam.

There is no army that synergises so well on so highly efficient level without sacrificing anything except OKW.
23 Nov 2014, 19:47 PM
#516
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Nov 2014, 17:30 PMKatitof


Shrecked volk blob can and you can't fight obers without vehicles or sniper spam.

There is no army that synergises so well on so highly efficient level without sacrificing anything except OKW.


A shrecked volks blob can do what? Vaporize any infantry and tanks. Yes, it can if you just yolo rush your tanks into it. Volks can also fight inf but what if...I don't know....what if you use anti blob weapons such as (off map)arty, demos, mines or any other form of indirect fire (that's also a counter to Obers btw).

If you are talking about Obers + Shrecked volks. Well, Volks are AT and Obers are AI. That's "combined arms" to some extent. So, you obviously shouldn't simply fight them directly. If it's a blob it's even better.

It's still inf, so you can use all the stuff I've mentioned above. If there's a Panther + Obers + shrecked Volks it's more difficult. You have to use combined arms yourself then.

23 Nov 2014, 19:53 PM
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I love that this thread is still going on :D
I know right? It's pretty amazing actually.
23 Nov 2014, 21:10 PM
#518
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A shrecked volks blob can do what? Vaporize any infantry and tanks. Yes, it can if you just yolo rush your tanks into it. Volks can also fight inf but what if...I don't know....what if you use anti blob weapons such as (off map)arty, demos, mines or any other form of indirect fire (that's also a counter to Obers btw).

If you are talking about Obers + Shrecked volks. Well, Volks are AT and Obers are AI. That's "combined arms" to some extent. So, you obviously shouldn't simply fight them directly. If it's a blob it's even better.

It's still inf, so you can use all the stuff I've mentioned above. If there's a Panther + Obers + shrecked Volks it's more difficult. You have to use combined arms yourself then.



The thing is that combined arms from Allies are far less effective than "combined arms" from OKW, if we can call that combined arms. To me, it is the same than a bioball from Terran in Sc2. A blob easy to do and that can rape everything with ease.
23 Nov 2014, 21:32 PM
#519
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The thing is that combined arms from Allies are far less effective than "combined arms" from OKW, if we can call that combined arms. To me, it is the same than a bioball from Terran in Sc2. A blob easy to do and that can rape everything with ease.


That is until you get bane'd muta'd / colossus - storm spammed.
23 Nov 2014, 21:42 PM
#520
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The thing is that combined arms from Allies are far less effective than "combined arms" from OKW, if we can call that combined arms. To me, it is the same than a bioball from Terran in Sc2. A blob easy to do and that can rape everything with ease.


Do I really have to repeat everything I said?

Every blob will hurt the blobber more than the blob will hurt the enemy simply because blobs are easily countered.

If you see a ober/volk blob the only thing you have to do is: plant demos, mines and / or get some arty.

The blob will get wiped off the battlefield just like this one:

http://i.imgur.com/cQNxrBu.gif

I know this is a specific situation. It's just for illustrative purposes.
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