Does anyone have hope?

Good for whom exactly?

If you're an Allied fanboy or an Allied player, I'm sure they look great indeed. If you're an Axis player, this are detrimental.


Also I'm not fucking LolCake >_<

Seriously, is it possible that someone just disagrees with the entire Pro-Ally movement that PQ is taking this game towards?

Axis just have been getting reamed by the Nerf Bat every time an Allied player cries.

Stats were posted showing that top 200 Axis have higher win rates than top 200 Allies, and dramatically higher win rates than USF.

Those are facts, no crying involved.

If you're an Allied fanboy or an Allied player, I'm sure they look great indeed. If you're an Axis player, this are detrimental.

look at my playercard, now look at this sentence "i love these changes", now look back at my playercard and once again back at this sentence "i love these changes". do you hear that sound of shattering glass? i hope you do. its the sound of your delusions falling apart
youre welcome

Good for whom exactly?

If you're an Allied fanboy or an Allied player, I'm sure they look great indeed. If you're an Axis player, this are detrimental.


Also I'm not fucking LolCake >_<

Seriously, is it possible that someone just disagrees with the entire Pro-Ally movement that PQ is taking this game towards?

Axis just have been getting reamed by the Nerf Bat every time an Allied player cries.

Sierra prs, you play 4v4's and 2's with OKW exclusively, before spamming different threads with the same message over and over again, take a step back and look at the game from all perspectives.

Sierra prs, you play 4v4's and 2's with OKW exclusively, before spamming different threads with the same message over and over again, take a step back and look at the game from all perspectives.

Brother, there is no reasoning with him.

Good for whom exactly?

If you're an Allied fanboy or an Allied player, I'm sure they look great indeed. If you're an Axis player, this are detrimental.


Also I'm not fucking LolCake >_<

Seriously, is it possible that someone just disagrees with the entire Pro-Ally movement that PQ is taking this game towards?

Axis just have been getting reamed by the Nerf Bat every time an Allied player cries.

I won't disagree that this forum is full of pro-soviet and pro-usf players that are shooting instantly at anybody disagrees with them, but nevertheless you should try play all factions. Things are not quite you described, these are great changes at a first look. Play some games both in allied and axis shoes in Beta, then come back and share your opinions.
It looks like they really took some small and cautious steps related to balance, not like before. imagine what it would give a worst ROF for PAK 40 + a T34 BUFF. Huh? because that's how they used to make things in the past. So take a deep breath, calm down, go and play the beta-game. I'm sure your frustration will tone-down a bit

After playing the beta and looking at the changelog, I take back what I said. They are addressing a lot of issues not only balance. It looks like there's a lot of hope to be had

Can you upload a replay? I'd like to see this in action.

http://www.coh2.org/replay/25897/t2-t3-usf

Your opponent was rank 2000. I'm not saying you didn't play well, just that I doubt your strategy would work at higher levels of play.

Your opponent was rank 2000. I'm not saying you didn't play well, just that I doubt your strategy would work at higher levels of play.

I'm ranked 500 at the moment, I just switched from vcoh about a week ago and this style has been effective in every game I've played. 4 rifles before ambulance, captain, at guns and back tech to Lt is not a common strategy at all, but it's a vcoh style that I've adopted because american t4 sucked in that game too. I think the main benefit is that you can focus on munition caches instead; also building 3-5 at guns has a lot of longevity because they just get decrewed and rarely stolen, whereas a tank will get destroyed. It thus costs only about 80 power to crew it again and have a hard counter for any vehicle.

As I climb the ladder I'll continue to refine it but the goal was to show a different style where you don't have to deal with the inconsistencies of relying on t4.

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Its good to know that my acc in this forum gets always baned if i post resnobel stuff!!!


so no!!! i wait for modds and will never ever by a relic produkt again°°

i Was rank 100 in 2v2 and 500 in 1v1

You should not get divorsed after 1 year and if you love your wife, you can make it work .

Yea, but at least unlike a wife, CoH2 doesn't talk.

I actually have a lot of hope since a few days.
This is going in the right direction.

I actually have a lot of hope since a few days.
This is going in the right direction.

Me too, especially now that we have a beta to report our findings. The beta patch is going to lay an important base for upcoming balance changes.

I actually have a lot of hope since a few days.
This is going in the right direction.

You Mister apeak out of my heart!

I have a new found hope.

Unsure if that hope applies to the balancing though.

Given how they finally got their heads around nerfing superheavy shiny toy units that invariably ruin late-game tactical fun, yes I do have hopes for balance.

CoH2 feels like a game that was released atleast 6 months too early but Relic really seems to be willing to put in the work to make it right (reminds me a bit of Rome2). THQ being in financial trouble probably impacted the development of CoH2 quite a bit.

perhaps this current release of coh2 + WFA should've been the final product at launch

After playing the new patch some more, I have lost hope again. The unit response time while better is still laggy in over half my games. Whether this is due to bad matchmaking (high ping) or bad code is irrelevant.

The fact that there was hidden 200ms unit response time lag before is unacceptable. This game is a joke for competitive play from a purely technical perspective.

Hope? Yes
Yes, COH2 have more potential than COH1. Maybe not so much in RTS multiplayer but as a hybrid game. Theatre of War (or something similar) can be used as a platform to expand and/or mix other game genres that appeal to a much larger player base. COH2 have a promising casting/steaming community which are doing good promoting COH2 as a fun game to play or watch.
Also the eSport community is going to grow much larger maybe not in RTS but in general. Online video streaming have become more accessible and this is also why COH2 has to become a hybrid game to attract more viewers which equal more potential sponsors.

My biggest concern are not with Relic but rather what type of players the game will attract in the future. No community, no future if you ask me. If the community show enough passion for the game that will eventual shine through to the devs.
On the other hand if COH2 attract to many emo kiddos like League of Legends then COH2 will likely be hijacked by trolls and become pure buisness for Relic. It's also a sad fact that internet trolls has directly lead to real life suicides, both in the gaming community as well social media. Imagine if a COH2 player killed himself because of trolling and the bad press it would create for the whole community? This is a serious issue that Relic soon or later might has to deal with (proactive). But the best thing would be if the COH community would police itself.

As players it's always easier to deflect blame than to look into our own mirror and take responsibility for the whole community. Personal im to old a gamer now and not playing with the same passion as before. But during the past 10 years I played EvE online I did my part to help hundreds of players achieve a positive gaming experience. Not because I care about showing my Epeen. But I know from experience that its hard work building a community which is not a magical refrigerator that is filled by mom and daddy, nor relic but YOU. How strong the COH2 community will become is totally up to how much passion each player put into the game.

The "blame & shame" mentality is counter productive especially against new players that need a helping hand but are to afraid or dont have enough passion for the game to ask for help. To many dont listen nor ask for help and thats a big problem for the whole community.
If new players dont have easy access to a friendly environment in which they can grow they will never show any passion for the game and will continue to be just "useless noobs". Constructive criticism is fine but apathy and elitism are a downward spiral which always end badly. L2P noob! Get skills! none of that is hardly constructive..
Then when new players finally get the courage to ask for help and what do they get? Sure there is alot of experience players that try to help but still alot that are very short sighted and 100% ego centric.

The whole COH2 community would improve mid-long term, if more players would learn to keep cool heads during a match and stop bitching in public chat. Also players really need to learn not to feed the trolls because they just love to collect your tears and rage. Same goes for real life. Trolls is all about using social engineering and manipulation so they can take personal pleasure when people feel emotional upset. Personal, I dislike trolls with a passion because I have seen first hand how much damage they can cause both on the internet and in real life. Trolls are the biggest problem on the planet right now. In real life they have robbed billions of ppl even without them knowing. To play with big pro-trolls, it's not that hard to guess where the biggest rat nets of trolls are in real life. If any COH2 trolls want to learn from the pros, join Goldman Sachs so you can laugh at all the easy preys (or what GS call "muppets" = food for trolls).


Internet Trolls Are Actually Sadists, Study Finds:
http://time.com/8265/internet-trolls-are-actually-sadists-study-finds/

Beeing a troll is not cool! Anyone who think otherwice is either ignorant to the fact that trolling is psychological warfare or show clear sociopathic behavior themself. Sure a sociopath can cry, just not for others. Sure its just the internet but that does not change the fact that trolls are still assholes or at very least "pretending" to be assholes.
Internet trolls are a serious threat to any gaming community and saying its not is like hiding under the bed saying the big bad wolf will never get to you.

Balance? tbh I could not care less if COH2 get hijacked by trolls.
Do Relic need to improve? Ofc they do, but the playerbase should strive to be constructive and dont act like emo kiddos playing League of Legends which will only attract more trolls.