Langreskaya against OKW

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Langreskaya has been one of my favourite maps ever since the original CoH, but in the Age of the Kubel I'm finding it very hard to compete against high-level OKW players on this map. Since we are now locked into the north spawn, it seems very easy for the OKW player to lock down my cut-off/fuel point with the Kubel/Sturm combo (with trucks either pushing my troops or destroying buildings that would be useful to me), and then keep the momentum up by either rushing a Puma to counter my M20/AA HT or setting up the medic truck behind the hedgerow to ensure an infinite stream of Volks.

To high-level (ideally top 100) US players: what is the best response to this? Any advice would be appreciated: micro, BO, capping order, anything. Is this just a map I have to veto? 'Cause that's what it feels like to me at the moment.

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Hello Kallipolan,

Nothing more to say

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28 Sep 2014, 20:10 PMjesulin

Hello Kallipolan,

Nothing more to say

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28 Sep 2014, 20:10 PMjesulin

Hello Kallipolan,

Nothing more to say

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Well, I guess that settles it then. I can't say I'm surprised - no idea how US is expected to play on that map.

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Either

M20 + airborne dropped AT guns (which can be risky since they come pretty late for Kübel/Pumas) and 1919 Paras into M8/Jacksons

or

4 double 1919 Rifles into Captain, AT guns and M8/Jacksons.

Bazookas should be the answer to Kübels and Pumas, but they are currently gutter trash.

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Veto Langreskaya, Crossing in the Woods, and Semoisky Summer

I like those maps but Kubeljesus just makes them close to autolose.

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29 Sep 2014, 02:29 AMbutterfingers158

Veto Langreskaya, Crossing in the Woods, and Semoisky Summer

I like those maps but Kubeljesus just makes them close to autolose.

I don't really mind Crossing or Semoskiy against OKW - on Crossing I just split my forced pretty evenly since the Kubel can only go to one fuel point. Semoskiy has tons of buildings that help, though admittedly on Summer it can be brutal if you get shut out of the centre early against a Kubel. I've played OKW players who base their whole strategy purely on taking and fortifying the chokepoint at your base.