Ok don't buff cons, but buff penals.
Ideally, i'd like to see penals renamed to strelky (but whatever will never happen)
give the penals 6 gaurd mosins, and a 1x dp upgrade , or maybe make them start with the DP, not sure (340 mp for example)
give gaurds svt-40s.
My thoughts & ideas on Conscripts
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29 Aug 2014, 09:27 AM
#301
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29 Aug 2014, 09:46 AM
#302
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Ok don't buff cons, but buff penals.
Ideally, i'd like to see penals renamed to strelky (but whatever will never happen).
You are suggesting a name buff?!
HOLY HELL, MAN!
Are you crazy?
Thats way too OP!
Anyways, ontopic, heres my Penal change proposal from earlier in this thread as some food for thought:
http://www.coh2.org/topic/22935/my-thoughts-%26-ideas-on-conscripts/page/4#post_id206037
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29 Aug 2014, 09:48 AM
#303
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Buff for cons? Ha, just dig them back. From the output of DLC they could rot.
If developers are interested in the return them back to life, they release a new doctrine.
Like this
or that
At least it will bring them money.
If developers are interested in the return them back to life, they release a new doctrine.
Like this
or that
At least it will bring them money.
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29 Aug 2014, 13:45 PM
#304
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The second one...where did you find that.......gib naow.
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29 Aug 2014, 14:14 PM
#305
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damn that looks like a sick doctrine
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29 Aug 2014, 14:14 PM
#306
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That wouldn't solve the problem. Like PPSh, you still have to choose a doctrine to make conscripts scale, and like most PPSh doctrines you have no other infantry save Penals. In this case, no call-ins either, better hope you can win with T-34s or SU-85s.
I mean, I'd really like to try this doctrine, but it's probably niche at best.
I mean, I'd really like to try this doctrine, but it's probably niche at best.
29 Aug 2014, 14:16 PM
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29 Aug 2014, 14:19 PM
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this NKVD frontier looks like FAKE/PHOTOSHOPED.
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29 Aug 2014, 14:19 PM
#309
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I think the tank hunter one is already out. some people have posted replays using it.
anyways, I agree that these new doctrines don't solve conscripts at all. No one will ever pick them because the doctrines have no useful late game units. If conscripts could hold on their own a little bit, then people would stop choosing those late game armor doctrines
anyways, I agree that these new doctrines don't solve conscripts at all. No one will ever pick them because the doctrines have no useful late game units. If conscripts could hold on their own a little bit, then people would stop choosing those late game armor doctrines
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
29 Aug 2014, 18:59 PM
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this NKVD frontier looks like FAKE/PHOTOSHOPED.
Yeah, this is handmade.
I think the tank hunter one is already out. some people have posted replays using it.
anyways, I agree that these new doctrines don't solve conscripts at all. No one will ever pick them because the doctrines have no useful late game units. If conscripts could hold on their own a little bit, then people would stop choosing those late game armor doctrines
And again, right. For now, doctrines without elite infantry and tanks at the same time useless
(at least 3x3 or 4x4), because regular Soviet troops...well, soviet. In this game, the "Soviet" means "weak".
So that the doctrine of the NKVD turned out quite in the spirit of devs. Piece of trash like Defensive strategy.
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29 Aug 2014, 19:17 PM
#311
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anyways, i think i have to agree with cannonade on this.
Conscripts are fine, they are a bit like volks from coh 1.
Difference between volks and cons, is that volks were backed up by good non doctrinal inf (KCH and grens).
Penals also don't scale well at all. Thats what really needs fixing. Like i said, i'd like penals renamed to strelky, but that's just a flavor issue, not relaly anything major.
My personal preference would be something like this - strelky
300 mp - Strelky - Strelky are well trained and decently equipped infantry for the soviets. The backbone and bulk of the soviet army, effective againts infantry at long range.
6 man team with mosins (gaurd mosin stats)
gaurd grenade
DP upgrade for 50 munitions.
weakness here - no AT. So spamming them is not a good idea.
Of course, the name change , like i said, is not really needed.
Conscripts are fine, they are a bit like volks from coh 1.
Difference between volks and cons, is that volks were backed up by good non doctrinal inf (KCH and grens).
Penals also don't scale well at all. Thats what really needs fixing. Like i said, i'd like penals renamed to strelky, but that's just a flavor issue, not relaly anything major.
My personal preference would be something like this - strelky
300 mp - Strelky - Strelky are well trained and decently equipped infantry for the soviets. The backbone and bulk of the soviet army, effective againts infantry at long range.
6 man team with mosins (gaurd mosin stats)
gaurd grenade
DP upgrade for 50 munitions.
weakness here - no AT. So spamming them is not a good idea.
Of course, the name change , like i said, is not really needed.
29 Aug 2014, 19:31 PM
#312
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Hmmm I feel penals and cons should be more different. The changes you mentioned are nice but then no one will ever build cons anymore.
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29 Aug 2014, 19:33 PM
#313
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Hmmm I feel penals and cons should be more different. The changes you mentioned are nice but then no one will ever build cons anymore.
What if the only way they could be reinforced is with conscript merge?
29 Aug 2014, 19:37 PM
#314
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I think cons need a non doctrinal upragde, unlocked after build of t3 or t4 to make them better in mid/late game
30 Aug 2014, 03:02 AM
#315
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What if the only way they could be reinforced is with conscript merge?
nah that would make it very gimmicky gameplay
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
30 Aug 2014, 17:00 PM
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If I understood things correctly, Cons are due for an imminent buff, as are Volks in OKW.
Should keep all sides happy.
Should keep all sides happy.
30 Aug 2014, 17:20 PM
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Do volks need a buff though (serious question)
Do volks need a buff though (serious question)
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
30 Aug 2014, 17:39 PM
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Do volks need a buff though (serious question)
Long range buff. Thats it
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30 Aug 2014, 18:05 PM
#319
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Long range buff. Thats it
More like Rifles need a long range DPS nerf.
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30 Aug 2014, 18:09 PM
#320
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Happy that conscripts are getting some love.
Volks, however, I'm not sure. They already perform well at their role of meatshield anti-tank infantry, and their veterancy is simply bonkers. Slightly more long range dps won,t hurt I suppose, but as someone who uses them a lot they don't need more than that.
Volks, however, I'm not sure. They already perform well at their role of meatshield anti-tank infantry, and their veterancy is simply bonkers. Slightly more long range dps won,t hurt I suppose, but as someone who uses them a lot they don't need more than that.
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