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Oberkommando's west ridiculous anti air

28 Jun 2014, 00:12 AM
#1
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Pretty much all plane based abilities other than single strafe types are completely useless against them due to their flak emplacements. Does anyone else think this needs to be seriously toned down ?
28 Jun 2014, 01:05 AM
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+1
28 Jun 2014, 01:28 AM
#3
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Yes, moar narf plz :p
28 Jun 2014, 07:57 AM
#4
avatar of Frencho

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Inquiry: If using the lend lease commander for the Red Army can you still use the fuel drops against OKW?

Or will the base flak emplacements rapidly shoot down the cargo plane as it flies from the enemy's base towards yours?

Havent tried yet in-game.
28 Jun 2014, 08:11 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jun 2014, 07:57 AMFrencho


Or will the base flak emplacements rapidly shoot down the cargo plane as it flies from the enemy's base towards yours?



Hopefully they do.:D
28 Jun 2014, 08:27 AM
#6
avatar of Kreatiir

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Absolutely.
Recon on small maps is useless, the plane gets shot down immediately.
28 Jun 2014, 09:07 AM
#7
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because it is a "BFG"
28 Jun 2014, 09:26 AM
#8
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Would seem to be as intended.
Its Flak, afterall.
28 Jun 2014, 12:23 PM
#9
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lol never realized that. They shouldnt be supposed to shoot enemy planes in that case i guess.
28 Jun 2014, 12:30 PM
#10
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Given how many airstrikes there are, it's a very odd design choice to have small maps with that much flak.
28 Jun 2014, 12:31 PM
#11
avatar of Cannonade

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Part of it might be to defend against offmap airforce payloads.
28 Jun 2014, 13:40 PM
#12
avatar of Chegwin

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Hopefully they do.:D


Nothing like hard countering abilities without doing nothing! :D
28 Jun 2014, 14:14 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jun 2014, 07:57 AMFrencho
Inquiry: If using the lend lease commander for the Red Army can you still use the fuel drops against OKW?

Or will the base flak emplacements rapidly shoot down the cargo plane as it flies from the enemy's base towards yours?

Havent tried yet in-game.


In the Alpha the base defenses of the OKW did not have anti-air capabilities. I would guess that remains the same now.

The only anti-air that the OKW gets "free" is their T4 Building: the Panzer Schwerer HQ. This actually does shoot down planes in my experience although how well it does so I have no idea. I've been able to use Lend Lease planes in a few matches. I could see how a campy OKW 4v4 team would invalidate anti-air power by teching up but in smaller games I would suspect that you're probably pretty safe.

28 Jun 2014, 14:20 PM
#14
avatar of VIPUKS

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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jun 2014, 07:57 AMFrencho
Inquiry: If using the lend lease commander for the Red Army can you still use the fuel drops against OKW?

Or will the base flak emplacements rapidly shoot down the cargo plane as it flies from the enemy's base towards yours?

Havent tried yet in-game.


Plane managed to drop the supplies anyway
28 Jun 2014, 14:25 PM
#15
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In the Alpha the base defenses of the OKW did not have anti-air capabilities. I would guess that remains the same now.

The only anti-air that the OKW gets "free" is their T4 Building: the Panzer Schwerer HQ. This actually does shoot down planes in my experience although how well it does so I have no idea. I've been able to use Lend Lease planes in a few matches. I could see how a campy OKW 4v4 team would invalidate anti-air power by teching up but in smaller games I would suspect that you're probably pretty safe.



They won't shoot down certain planes like the paratrooper/drop planes, supply drop planes, but for "low flying" planes, such as strafes, air strikes and recon planes they will target them.
28 Jun 2014, 15:21 PM
#16
avatar of Frencho

Posts: 220

Ok guys thanks for the reply. I was afraid that OKW could invalidate a whole commander since the start of the match and for free, which would be pretty unfair.
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