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No balance... Mines, Snipers...

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6 Jun 2014, 09:21 AM
#1
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

That's very annoying to play with germans...

When you hit faust at M3A1 with 2/3 health but it survives, when enemy has 2 snipers(4 men) and you can't kill both of them. When one "free"(30muni) mine kills a squad! When T85's rule against Tiger... Conscripts from green cover and others...
ISU152 kills a squad with one pure shot.


It's already impossible to play 1v1... That's a shit!
6 Jun 2014, 09:22 AM
#2
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

It's really easy to guess that I'm right.

Check player's streaks with both factions.

in Top 25, Soviet's average streak is about 10-15. and Germans only 5...
6 Jun 2014, 09:32 AM
#4
avatar of FrikadelleXXL

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Permanently Banned
6 Jun 2014, 10:03 AM
#5
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

Elephant on Semoskiy against 2-4 T85's? thx no...

I don't care about people who say that game is balanced.
Everyone who knows how to play, says that Sov's are easy mode and cheap.
When you have one P4, or max two P4, opponent has T85's and a guards. Anyway it's unbalanced right now...
6 Jun 2014, 10:13 AM
#6
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

or you are just bad. Go stugs vs t-34/85s. they work very well, especially if they get vet 1.
6 Jun 2014, 10:18 AM
#7
avatar of bämbabäm

Posts: 246

Maybe build Elefant?...


To counter M3, mines and snipers from OP.... yeah... a lot of thought was put into that post.


to OP: When playing germans, use two Pios with sweepers (but yeah squad wipes are crap and a total pain in the ass). In 1v1 go for grens, don't spread out too much and keep them in green cover when facing M3s.

And one thing that always helps a lot to understand the game: play sov with the strategy they beat you with, this way you can better see the downsides of certain build orders.
6 Jun 2014, 10:31 AM
#8
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

lol... it's easy to say... really easy.
but when you play and 3-4 squads of cons coming, sniper and M3 coming with flames and guards coming... not easy to survive with your grens... you can't always have 2 sweepers.

6 Jun 2014, 10:32 AM
#9
avatar of Jaigen

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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jun 2014, 10:13 AMBurts
or you are just bad. Go stugs vs t-34/85s. they work very well, especially if they get vet 1.


Stop giving bad advice .
6 Jun 2014, 10:33 AM
#10
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

lol... it's easy to say... really easy.
but when you play and 3-4 squads of cons coming, sniper and M3 coming with flames and guards coming... not easy to survive with your grens... you can't always have 2 sweepers.




3-4 squads of cons, sniper m3 gaurds sounds like an awful lot of manpower. Where are all your units? By the time the soviet player gets those , you should atleast have a 222 out of or something.
6 Jun 2014, 10:34 AM
#11
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jun 2014, 10:32 AMJaigen


Stop giving bad advice .


I would not say that stugs don't work vs t-34/85s infact, i think they work very well

http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561198033352922

If my advice was "bad" i would of never achieved such a rank...
6 Jun 2014, 10:50 AM
#12
avatar of Flamee

Posts: 710

Elephant on Semoskiy against 2-4 T85's? thx no...

I don't care about people who say that game is balanced.
Everyone who knows how to play, says that Sov's are easy mode and cheap.
When you have one P4, or max two P4, opponent has T85's and a guards. Anyway it's unbalanced right now...


Wow, this seems like constructive thread.

I don't care what you say. Game is fine.
6 Jun 2014, 11:08 AM
#13
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jun 2014, 10:50 AMFlamee


Wow, this seems like constructive thread.

I don't care what you say. Game is fine.


Yes, because you are a noob. That's difference.

How you talk about balance when there is ISU?
6 Jun 2014, 11:08 AM
#14
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

I want a nerfs for Soviet!

6 Jun 2014, 11:10 AM
#15
avatar of Flamee

Posts: 710

I want a nerfs for Soviet!



Not sure if trolling..

6 Jun 2014, 11:12 AM
#16
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

Flamee

I have a proofs son... Read my first post :)
6 Jun 2014, 11:40 AM
#17
avatar of CptEend
Patrion 14

Posts: 369


This thread :')

T34-85s are more expensive than a Tiger, why shouldn't they win? If you have only 1 PIV when T34-85s are on the field you were losing already anyway. Cap some fuel dude.

Yes ISU-152 and mines are OP, we know that by now, and hopefully it'll be fixed. But acting like there's no way to win as Germans is pure bullshit (certainly in 1v1, which imo is pretty balanced right now).

Btw, be a man and share your rank before calling others noobs :')
6 Jun 2014, 12:18 PM
#18
avatar of Katitof

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I want a nerfs for Soviet!



6 Jun 2014, 12:43 PM
#19
avatar of SuperKeitel

Posts: 158

Agree with this, german player, regardless of costs, often need 4 actions to counter a single soviet click. This is what is OP, not really the units. With T34/85 rushing behind a tiger, you need to micro your tiger, to micro your gren/mg to stop a single conscripts to throw an AT nade, while the russian player always have the advantage of the action. The problem is that the german player, if you don't play REALLY aggressive, always have to react to russian simple actions.

BTW, i'm not even considering arguments from people who don't even show their ranks in their profile...
6 Jun 2014, 13:04 PM
#20
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Posts: 807

Agree with this, german player, regardless of costs, often need 4 actions to counter a single soviet click. This is what is OP, not really the units. With T34/85 rushing behind a tiger, you need to micro your tiger, to micro your gren/mg to stop a single conscripts to throw an AT nade, while the russian player always have the advantage of the action. The problem is that the german player, if you don't play REALLY aggressive, always have to react to russian simple actions.

BTW, i'm not even considering arguments from people who don't even show their ranks in their profile...


:thumb: I admire people that have the courage to admit such simple things and more than this, post it in a world of soviet fanboys. Prepare for the soviet raging fury :rolleyes:
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