M3s unbeatable

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 06:10 AM__deleted__

I agree to Jaigen. No one research at grenade first? Well, in such case they should do it! Adapt?! ..to enemy play style?! "Handicap their AI capacity"? Handicap their cons AI capacity it's to much said, and even if it was true, that would not be a bad thing because they will be obliged to use combined arms not just spamming cons! Why in the world everything MUST be so easy for soviets?!
Current german SC arrival is to late, letting time for M3s to ride your army hard and HANDICAP (because you like this word ) your capping ability because you need to keep your units together unlike soviets who can spread more easily. Their capping capacity in early game is not altered, even if they use M3s. That is a wrong concept. Squads in M3s can still cap even if they are embarked, and due to M3 speed they can reach faster capping points. By the time SC arrives, the perfect counter is there: Guards. I mean, in every stage of early game germans are overpassed from the start. If they build something, soviets already have a hard counter and are one step ahead no matter what germans do. Long live the balance.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 07:33 AMCptEend

You should really start playing both factions before posting all this bullshit you're continuously posting on the forums. It's getting annoying.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 07:54 AMJaigen

How is it bullshit? he is correct you know. the soviets can get their counter out before the sc arrive. germans have to wait 5 min before they finally get a sc out to counter the m3. it gives the soviets a rather huge and unnecessary advantage.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 08:38 AMCptEend

I'm not saying it's bullshit that M3s are OP atm. They probably are, although still not game breaking hard. I'm just getting sick of him whining how OP and easy to play Soviets are, while he hardly ever played them.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 07:10 AMcataclaw

Biggest issue i have with the M3 is that it is too fast after it has been fausted, so that it is impossible to follow up unless you get 2 fausts off after one another.

Most efficient style imo is just getting the first 60 munition into ROKS-3 flamethrowers and putting down mines everywhere, voila insta gibbin'.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 06:10 AM__deleted__

I agree to Jaigen. No one research at grenade first? Well, in such case they should do it! Adapt?! ..to enemy play style?! "Handicap their AI capacity"? Handicap their cons AI capacity it's to much said, and even if it was true, that would not be a bad thing because they will be obliged to use combined arms not just spamming cons! Why in the world everything MUST be so easy for soviets?!
Current german SC arrival is to late, letting time for M3s to ride your army hard and HANDICAP (because you like this word ) your capping ability because you need to keep your units together unlike soviets who can spread more easily. Their capping capacity in early game is not altered, even if they use M3s. That is a wrong concept. Squads in M3s can still cap even if they are embarked, and due to M3 speed they can reach faster capping points. By the time SC arrives, the perfect counter is there: Guards. I mean, in every stage of early game germans are overpassed from the start. If they build something, soviets already have a hard counter and are one step ahead no matter what germans do. Long live the balance.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 07:10 AMcataclaw

Due to how most maps are designed, you can focus around the cut-off and that way you wont lose any "capping" power at all, but refuse your opponent from getting resources.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 09:23 AMAbdul

And this also is a bigger problem that relic is showing no serious interest in addressing

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 14:41 PMjackill2611

Hell, stop complaining about M3! It is early push unit for soviets, and after 5 minutes it becomes useless so german 222?221 pinish it with ease. Everybody complain... "oh, those Ivans take more map first 5 minutes." Hell, you have 222 and late game tigers! Have fun and stop complain!

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 09:08 AM__deleted__

Well I'm trying to keep this discution at a level with grounded opinions. On the other hand I can tell you to go f...k off to, being sick of diferent forms of soviet fanboyism. But I chosed not to. So I expect some based opinions from your side, otherwise please don't bother me with stupid posts.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 14:48 PMAbdul

not really, if you put a guards squad in the m3 it will destroy 222 with ease, and if you upgrade guards with ptrs it becomes a killing machine.

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Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 15:33 PMCptEend

Lol, just happened to have a game versus Cpt.Molo with his SC spam. If this is how he normally plays then I don't understand how he got such a high rank in the first place

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Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 19:52 PM__deleted__

What the... is this? You wasted my time. That guy was sent by his mother to throw the garbage perhaps, that is why he made you an M3 gift then he quit. I met M3 combos in 2v2 against which not one pzfaust could be shot, carrying flaming engeneers that disembarked from time to time to plant mines, german SCs that followed them were blown to sky. Abuse tactics used by good players.
You shot one forgoten M3 and expect me to tell you "wow, you're right?" Get real.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 07:33 AMCptEend

You should really start playing both factions before posting all this bullshit you're continuously posting on the forums. It's getting annoying.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 14:41 PMjackill2611

Hell, stop complaining about M3! It is early push unit for soviets, and after 5 minutes it becomes useless so german 222?221 pinish it with ease. Everybody complain... "oh, those Ivans take more map first 5 minutes." Hell, you have 222 and late game tigers! Have fun and stop complain!