Hands on Western Fronts Armies

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 05:25 AMAchtAchter

Where do you got the info that there's a F1? Haven't seen any pictures or videos about it.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 02:18 AMMr. Someguy

Suppression yeah, they only seem to have the Kubelwagen as far as we've seen. No telling how the MG 34 will perform. In real life the MG 34 was just a slower 42, and the 42 in game isn't impressive, sooo.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 15:58 PMSuperKeitel

Head to head, Bars > Mg 34... Most useless unit

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 17:42 PMMr. Someguy

So, still Conscript / Rifleman fodder.

I guess Germans just aren't allowed to have good MG's. Even though they were infamous for them.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 18:05 PMcoh2player

KT is 700 MP, 260 fuel

Ostheer Panther is 490 MP, 175 fuel

SU-85 is 340 MP, 120 fuel

Command Panther is 560 MP, ?? fuel

I'm guessing the C-Panther is 200 fuel or a bit more given the difference in MP and the command bonuses.

IF..and that's a big IF..the OKW Panther = Ostheer Panther in cost than the Jagdpanzer IV could be 125 fuel plus if prior relations b/w the Stug III G and P4 are applied.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 15:15 PMraw

I just hope they don't introduce I-Win buttons like the Tiger Ace again.

That stuff is the last thing this game needs.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 18:23 PMcoh2player

^

I think they lost one of their buildings and had to rebuild it. It probably cost some fuel to do that. They also built 2 buildings when with a better doctrine they only had to build one.

The fuel/muni resource in-availability leads me to think that the KT, JagdTiger, C-Panther are pretty much unaffordable in the practical sense. There's too much delay.


In the preview, the C-Panther is unlocked at the 19:00 mark (10 CPs). Their fuel was at 260 when they got it. This means that this call in is inefficient for rushing.

The OKW Panther is probably cutting it real close and the opportunity cost of getting it is probably worse than rushing for that first Panther for Ostheer.

The only AFV that's left for the earliest build is the Jagdpanzer IV.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 18:07 PMBurts

Keep in mind that OKW gets practically no resuorces from standart points, i think its a 50% or 75 percent , for example normal point gives you 3 fuel and 7 munitions, OKW for the same point gets only 1 fuel and 2 munitions.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 18:37 PMdasheepeh

Damn, you must be seriously bored.

My first tank with OKW is, 75% of the time, a Panther. I might go for a Luchs if I've denied enemy fuel and feel lucky.