April 24th Patch Notes Discussion

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 21:08 PMKronosaur0s

Dude, your last comment was funnier than this one, your degenerating or what??

#Aerohank If thats true and Elefant doesnt drop pen at max range, this is good news for me

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 02:13 AMpantherswag

I like the idea of this patch but I think that Soviets are going to have a distinct lack of useful AT if they go T3. The raise in penetration is matched by a change in P4 armor, and ram being nerfed will make T34 all but worthless against heavy armor. I get the idea with the penetration at range changes, but I don't think the T34 is really that much faster than the P4 to say that it will be able to flank on a reliable basis, let alone a panther.
I just don't see how T34s are supposed to counter anything heavier than a P4 without ram, when now they cost as much as an Ostwind.
But we'll see I guess. Who knows.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 04:05 AMHambone

DSHK HMG

-Penetration from 1/1/1 to 2.5/2.0/1.5
-Armor piercing rounds now provides 3x penetration rather than an additional +9 penetration at all ranges
-Properly received the +25% received accuracy like all other team weapons
-Damage from 12 to 10

Finally. The dushka received well deserved nerfs across every aspect of the unit. Now its reign of terror will come to an end. Relic's sense of perception is as flawless as ever. Thank you Peter, now they can't even be used in comedy builds.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 18:53 PMKyle

Yes I understand that. But I think Relic should change it around: G43 should be the long range asset but LMG should only be close to medium range.

I mean for god sake G43 is a long range Rifle, WITH SCOPE. I mean SCOPE for better aiming at far range, not to be god as medium and close.

And MG usually got shitty long range accuracy. They should be good in medium and close range.

I understand that in the last patch, G43 was OP. But they should nerf it when enemy get in medium or close range, not the other way around.

I fear that Russian play will start playing with the Guard + ISU doctrine now.

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Guys, may I ask what is your way to counter Russian Sniper Spam ? I saw some people get 2 snipers, wipe out Grenadiers try to close it at them. Wait for 2CP and get guards, upgrade with DP-28. No, German Rifle Grenade will not do anything good because good Rus player will move always when they see the animation.

Then they start moving Guard at front, sniper behind them. A 222 try to close in will get button, Grenadiers try to rush in with get eat by sniper and DP-28.

Then they go Tier 3 to get M3, T34 and wait for ISU. with the T34 can fight tank better now, they will use it to wait for the " russian tank destroyer "

And no no, I just simply ask how are you going to counter that ? I try gren with G43 and 222 and mostly I failed.

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Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 03:36 AMlink0

You shouldn't be going T3 without going T2 first (AT guns). This has always been true, and always will be true.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 20:31 PMAerohank

Penetration decreases with range. Especially for low-velocity guns like the ISU 152 has. The ISU-152 will still not be a long-range anti tank gun like the elephant, but now it won't be so easily killed from up close. It might now be actually something worth getting in a 1v1, rather than a free vet bonus for panthers or tigers.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 20:54 PMakosi

MVGame

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 07:05 AMjackill2611

It fires HE rounds, so no decrease