I understand why CIS countrys hate single player campaign

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2014, 10:59 AMCardboard Tank

I personally didn´t see an insulting characterization of the regular Russian soldier in the campaign. Rather my impression was that the communist system was depicted as nasty - which it was. The soldiers try to heroically safe their Commander and the narrator is seen as a conscientious person. The evil things are ordered and done by the Commissars, representing the system.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2014, 11:16 AMrejfor

You blind, huh? Campaign haters are angry because Relic didn't show Russians from neutral POW (as Germans in Opposing Fronts) while you continue to repeat bullshit about comissars (were completly disbanded in October, 1942) and Soviet war crimes.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2014, 12:28 PMKatitof

Its a political/historical discussion.

There is no way this will be polite.

Threads like this should be locked instantly on games forums as not once anything good came out of them and as liberal as coh2.org discussions can be I still think threads like this have no right of being here.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2014, 13:24 PMEupolemos

The campaign tried to display the individual heroics of Russians while still painting Soviet as bad. I think that was exactly the right thing to do, they just failed horribly.

Russians know it was a fucked up time, calling for horribly harsh decisions on their part. I can understand why they are angry; when you don't show what horrors they were facing, Russia seems more evil than necessary.

The Allies started bombing cities before the Axis did. That's fine by me, the then nazi nation had it coming. War isn't some game where one army honourably meets the other, it is a nasty business where you visit maximum misery upon the opposing nation. Not going for civilians is like saying "no baserushing" - it's not gonna fly.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2014, 00:38 AMHypnotoad

True. But the Germans recognize and remember what was done in their name.

What do Russian children learn about the criminality of the Soviet Union? What do they learn about the Holodomor that cost tens of millions of innocent Ukrainians their lives?

That's the difference.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2014, 14:06 PMPhy

Every nation with power has a lot to feel ashamed, specially the USA.

I only read capitalist propaganda, propaganda and propaganda!