It's bullshit but I start agreeing it is > Grenspam
16 Apr 2014, 20:31 PM
#21
Posts: 432
I just think that Soviets should be more flexible in dealing with a variety of things Germans can throw out. Having specialized tiers is fine as long as Soviets can jump from one to another without suffering huge setbacks.
16 Apr 2014, 20:45 PM
#22
Posts: 170
I just think that Soviets should be more flexible in dealing with a variety of things Germans can throw out. Having specialized tiers is fine as long as Soviets can jump from one to another without suffering huge setbacks.
agree 100%
16 Apr 2014, 21:07 PM
#23
Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2
I agree with tengen as well. Really looking forward to what this patch delivers.
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16 Apr 2014, 23:41 PM
#24
Posts: 126
Great post tengen. Soviets are on bad shape in early, mid and late game. It is more than small tweaks to fix this faction. There are design flaws that need an overhaul.
17 Apr 2014, 03:33 AM
#25
Posts: 1944 | Subs: 2
How does a T70 not own this strat? I mean if someone sticks directly to that Pio > Tiger build, and any point provides fuel like it does in CoH2, it seems like even if you are way behind you could still manage to get a T70 out several minutes before he has enough CP for the Tiger (which should come around the 18 minute mark). Nothing other than a teller mine would be able to scratch it.
17 Apr 2014, 03:40 AM
#26
Posts: 2053
How does a T70 not own this strat? I mean if someone sticks directly to that Pio > Tiger build, and any point provides fuel like it does in CoH2, it seems like even if you are way behind you could still manage to get a T70 out several minutes before he has enough CP for the Tiger (which should come around the 18 minute mark). Nothing other than a teller mine would be able to scratch it.
I took it as a joke. I hope Soviet tiers 3 and 4 are somewhat reworked, as well as some changes to the units in them. (SU-76 better not be forgotten)
17 Apr 2014, 04:18 AM
#27
Posts: 126
T70 will hit a mine field and the german player can easily build a green squad with Faust with a slight deviation from the strat.
Pips were perfect in coh1. You needed about 4 squads of pios to killer bee swarm an infantry squad. Now they are basically 4 man assault gren squads.
Pips were perfect in coh1. You needed about 4 squads of pios to killer bee swarm an infantry squad. Now they are basically 4 man assault gren squads.
17 Apr 2014, 04:43 AM
#28
Posts: 2779
How does a T70 not own this strat? I mean if someone sticks directly to that Pio > Tiger build, and any point provides fuel like it does in CoH2, it seems like even if you are way behind you could still manage to get a T70 out several minutes before he has enough CP for the Tiger (which should come around the 18 minute mark). Nothing other than a teller mine would be able to scratch it.
One does not simply PioCraft into Tiger without a P4 or Ostwind.
17 Apr 2014, 05:52 AM
#29
Posts: 230
i leave the forums for a month, and all the german fanboys are less fanboyiy!
i love you guys, hopefully you see the error of your wars
i love you guys, hopefully you see the error of your wars
17 Apr 2014, 06:09 AM
#30
Posts: 807
i leave the forums for a month, and all the german fanboys are less fanboyiy!
i love you guys, hopefully you see the error of your wars
True, but the soviet fanboys are not less "fanboyiy" and my opinion is they'll never, ever, be.
Back on topic, the post it's a joke of course, a good one, but this tactic actually works both in 1v1 and 2v2 if you replace Tiger with something earlier like T3. And results in an horrible owning since the game start.
Letting aside jokes as the perfect counter will be a shock squad in an M3
, I found that soviet reserve army it's a quite good reply to this tactic with those irregulars. Very cheap, as pios, and better armed. Rapid conscription will help to increase the swarm. So there you have your zerg army that will eat alive those pesky pios.
17 Apr 2014, 06:20 AM
#31
Posts: 2779
i leave the forums for a month, and all the german fanboys are less fanboyiy!
i love you guys, hopefully you see the error of your wars
Bye, with all your faction fanboy bullshit.
18 Apr 2014, 12:14 PM
#32
2 Posts: 83
I just think that Soviets should be more flexible in dealing with a variety of things Germans can throw out. Having specialized tiers is fine as long as Soviets can jump from one to another without suffering huge setbacks.
Just a random idea, what about having an option to convert your T3 to T4 and vice versa for some fuel and MP cost say 1/3rd of the building cost and say this can only be done once per game.
Or reduce T3 or T4 cost by say 40-50% if T3 or T4 already built? This gives soviets less flexibilty but doesn't doom them if they need to adapt later in the game.
Cant see this happening though tbh.
18 Apr 2014, 22:17 PM
#33
Posts: 509 | Subs: 1
Best counter is conscript spam, they're OP this patch. And never pick commander with radio transmission is waste of hability, you can know what is gonna do the opponent before even run automatch (green/piospamm). Thanks relic.
18 Apr 2014, 22:24 PM
#34
Posts: 126
I just can't believe whoever did the last patch was so clueless to not even imagine the gren/pio spam problems.
18 Apr 2014, 23:34 PM
#35
Posts: 1637
I just can't believe whoever did the last patch was so clueless to not even imagine the gren/pio spam problems.
They did. And PQs counter is Shock Troops in an M3.........dot dot dot
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
19 Apr 2014, 02:30 AM
#36
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Patches will roll, meta will change, but M3 Shocks will never be forgotten.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
19 Apr 2014, 05:16 AM
#37
Posts: 3293
Patches will roll, meta will change, but M3 Shocks will never be forgotten.
eagerly awaiting "IT'S OP NERF INTO THE GROUND NOW!" thread.
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19 Apr 2014, 05:24 AM
#38
Posts: 2487 | Subs: 21
Patches will roll, meta will change, but M3 Shocks will never be forgotten.
NEVA FORGET 3/27/2K14
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19 Apr 2014, 06:07 AM
#39
Posts: 84
19 Apr 2014, 08:18 AM
#40
Posts: 2819
Neva firget guys, m3 in shocktrops is best solution to gren/piospam
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