Patch Notes 03.25.14

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2014, 23:24 PMCardboard Tank

Also, doesn´t that also increase the problem with squad wiping Germans have?

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2014, 18:48 PM__deleted__

At a first look, there are many nice things in this patch.

Going deeper, it doesn't look so nice as it seems.
Saw nowhere the "one-shot squad wiping" problem resolved. On the contrary, german infantry gets decreased armor value. .... lol.....
Saw increased cost for PPSHs... from 30 amo to 40.... wow... what a big difference....
Happy for 2 seconds when I saw G43 decrease cost to 40 amo...but wait... JUST for Pzgrens. Who the fuck will upgrade PZgrens with G43s...may I ask.
Fuel cost for soviet building and for german phases increased... we will probably see an avalanche of call-in tanks... soviet call-ins quicker, of course, because they come at 9 CP.
No Kv-8 nerfing but AGAIN german infantry armor value decreased. Nice....
Mechanized groups get insignificant cost decreases while the half track loses more than 1/4 of its health. Great, now we will NEVER see those units again.

"LMG42 now requires Battle Phase 1 to unlock"
"Flame projector upgrade now requires battle phase 2"

....Excuse me...?!

"Officer armor from 4 to 1"

Now why was that necessary?

"DP-28 cost from 60 MU to 100 MU"

I red twice, thought it was a joke. A bad one.

"Cost from 320 MP to 280 MP
Population from 6 to 7
Updated AOE profile on Model 24 Stielgranate Grenade Assault
Assault Grenadiers now gain sprint"

What, they will be the new "units of doom"?! Gsus...

Saw they mess up the starting resources the second time in this game. Why was the first modification necessary? What we have now is close to what it was in the beginning.

Sorry, I was really upset because of these things.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 06:50 AM__deleted__

I believe it will. This issue should have been the first thing to correct in order to balance the game.
Obvoiusly, nobody cared about it, and now, paradoxically, the issue just aggravated.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 11:52 AMpigsoup

my experience (10 games so far).

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 12:03 PMAerohank

Grenadiers are super strong now. This patch made charging in with infantry very dangerous, while at the same time made soviets only good at short range. Stick your LMG42 grens in some cover and they will only lose to snipers.

Edit: Heck, they don't even need cover. Last night I had a vet 2 LMG42 squad out in the open. They were charged by a vet1 full health shock trooper squad. By the time the shock troopers were in effective range (<5 meters lol), only 2 models were left and they were wiped out on retreat.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 12:03 PMAerohank

Grenadiers are super strong now. This patch made charging in with infantry very dangerous, while at the same time made soviets only good at short range. Stick your LMG42 grens in some cover and they will only lose to snipers.

Edit: Heck, they don't even need cover. Last night I had a vet 2 LMG42 squad out in the open. They were charged by a vet1 full health shock trooper squad. By the time the shock troopers were in effective range (<5 meters lol), only 2 models were left and they were wiped out on retreat.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 13:59 PMAbdul

When merging conscripts with other units I noticed the merged unit doesn't change to look like the new squad, look:

con merged with penals:


con merged with eng:


Was it like this before the patch, and how does that effect the merge outcome?

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 13:09 PMAurgelwulf

Whats wrong with that? A shock squad charges in the open a vet 2 grenadier squad with an LMG. 440mp vs 240mp/60 Munis/Vet 2 - It sounds like you didn't even try and pop off a nade, you didnt pop-off smoke, you didn't use line of sight correctly and then complain because a slightly weaker squad was able to beat your expensive, poorly micro'd, squad.

I think some soviet players need to realise they're going to have to micro harder to get their moneys worth out of their troops, the days of shock troops just obliterating everything regardless of poor micro are gone.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 18:38 PMAerohank

I was the one with the Grenadiers... and they hardly took a scratch in the process. I din't even micro my grenadiers into cover, they were just out in the open. I just watched in awe as those shock troopers melted.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 13:00 PM__deleted__

Don't want to be rude... but.... play more and we'll talk later... ok...?

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2014, 13:59 PMAbdul

When merging conscripts with other units I noticed the merged unit doesn't change to look like the new squad, look:

con merged with penals:
/
con merged with eng:
/

Was it like this before the patch, and how does that effect the merge outcome?