German op abilities

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2014, 15:10 PMJHeartless

I fight the elephant at its great range by using T34/76s usually. If its a team game arty away all its defenses. Its a silly area denial gimmick IMHO.

You lose a tank to the Ele you know where the ele is camping because its slow you mosey on over there with a Pack of Tanks (its slow ROF means it cant kill them ALL) and you circle strafe the ele for about the next 5 mins until the damn massive HPs are depleted.

Sheesh Ele is easy mode at least in 2v2 maybe not in 4v4.....

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2014, 17:30 PMKronosaur0s

Wtf? where is the german support? sleeping while you circle strafe the elef?

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2014, 20:00 PMLast of the Catachan

Ok lets switch things around if you as german player had 3 paks a p4 , panther and I rushed you with a is2 , a su85 you would laugh yourself silly , the paks destroy the t34 ,panther p4 take out the is2 that's how shit Russian armour is for attacking to slow speed ,slow turning circle because there tank destroyers.

Also both Tiger and Panther are heavy tanks that can crush hedges you so also have this as an advantage.

Considering most 1v1 don't use t4 maybe relic should tweak this tier for multiplayer matches.

If you guys want a balanced game make all infantry same size ,health ,damage and tanks the same armour damage speed 1 sniper each just different models and voices all comes down to skill of the player.

Why have the Russians got a su85 anyway they stopped making these when t34/85 came into production they should be using su100

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2014, 21:53 PMKronosaur0s

Dude, the same elefant doctrine has an anti-arty stuka for cheap 160 muni, those germans player you played against, must be terrible.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2014, 22:23 PMAerohank

I think the only OP ability the germans have at the moment is the Stuka Bomb Strike. The 5-second warning is not enough to dodge it, considering you don't know where it hits. It can be called in during engagements on enemy AT guns or other support weapons for a guaranteed kill. You don't just randomly move your AT guns/support weapons around when they are shooting at panthers and whatnot, but if you don't, you suddenly hear a trumpet and by then it's already too late because the unit can't pack up and leave in time.

All other abilities are, in my opinion, either properly balanced or too weak. Things like med-kits and counter barrage need to be improved, and bugged abilities like the sniper stun round and target weak point need to be fixed so they function properly.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2014, 22:23 PMAerohank

I think the only OP ability the germans have at the moment is the Stuka Bomb Strike. The 5-second warning is not enough to dodge it, considering you don't know where it hits. It can be called in during engagements on enemy AT guns or other support weapons for a guaranteed kill. You don't just randomly move your AT guns/support weapons around when they are shooting at panthers and whatnot, but if you don't, you suddenly hear a trumpet and by then it's already too late because the unit can't pack up and leave in time.

All other abilities are, in my opinion, either properly balanced or too weak. Things like med-kits and counter barrage need to be improved, and bugged abilities like the sniper stun round and target weak point need to be fixed so they function properly.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2014, 01:14 AMelchino7

I could never understand why Jaeger armor should have Stuka AND Recon run... I always find it a too cheap way of dealing with Artillery. 240 muni for 600mp is a nice deal.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2014, 02:16 AMPorygon

240, Cheap? LOL

Joint Ops: 120+80 recon + light arty barrage
Close Air support: 160+30 Stuka bomb + 1 pass recon

Bitch please,
Counterattack tactic: 90, B4 = Stuka bomb that don't require sight

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2014, 03:59 AMelchino7

I was talking about Jaeger Armor. I dont know how effective some static artillery can be against that doctrine when your opponent can just save up munition to deal with it.

I know there are other cheaper versions -.-

With the B4 you are limited by the B4 range AND you actually need to vet it first. If something good the german have is, easy ways of countering artillery, specially on teamgames on which you expect someone having some kind of arty call in or recon.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2014, 02:16 AMPorygon

240, Cheap? LOL

Joint Ops: 120+80 recon + light arty barrage
Close Air support: 160+30 Stuka bomb + 1 pass recon

Bitch please,
Counterattack tactic: 90, B4 = Stuka bomb that don't require sight

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2014, 04:16 AMPorygon

...just have no idea what are you talking about...

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2014, 13:39 PMJHeartless

Please tell how the IL2 bombing run is better than Stuka plus recon run? Or have the German only perspective clouded any semblance of balance in your mind?

Is it that slow deployment time of IL2 that makes it better? Is it the big obvious plume of smoke that says I AM LANDING HERE that makes it better?

Stuka is too cheap and has too many things going for it. Its abusive and OP in my eyes. It has an inadequate warning system for its power. And its far far far too cheap.

Edit: In case you forgot the IL2 ALONE is 240 Muni not to mention if you want recon run.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2014, 01:25 AMMr. Someguy

Did you quote the wrong post? He didn't mention the IL-2 at all.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2014, 06:40 AMMarcoRossolini

Considering all the molotovs and AT nades and of course mines we're meant to be using, I don't understand what you're saying...