German S-Mines Broken

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2014, 03:39 AMHelpingHans

S-mines are fine now and really easy to deal with as pointed out in earlier posts. It's quite amusing to see people calling it OP when a bloody soviet mine is useful against both tanks and infantry and can one shot a vet 3 PG squad. Oh and might I add soviets automatically have access to demo charges without having to tech for them whereas the Ostheer do not.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2014, 16:35 PMShazz

You don't have to sweep the mines to render them useless. Just have an engineer on the same screen as the mines and conduct your assault as normal, then cleanup afterwards.

I'd give it some more time before declaring OP/UP one way or another. A huge part of it I suspect (for myself included) is that you have months of time playing as Soviets without ever needing to consider buying a minesweeper. Now you do.

EDIT: It's also quite a gamble to plant mines as the Ostheer player. It just means that many fewer LMG / G43 / FHT / shrek / teller / pintle MGs that can be purchased.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2014, 20:30 PMQubix

They can easily be spammed in front of your advancing troops during combat and slow the Soviets down quite significantly. Running over them like some people in this thread suggested is a horrible idea, I lost several Conscripts trying this. Sweeping or avoiding them is the only option until the first tank arrives. The build time needs to be longer so Pios can't lay them right next to a horde of conscripts !

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2014, 01:53 AMOZtheWiZARD

If that's the case then indeed some tweak is needed. It sounds almost like exploit.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2014, 20:30 PMQubix

They can easily be spammed in front of your advancing troops during combat and slow the Soviets down quite significantly. Running over them like some people in this thread suggested is a horrible idea, I lost several Conscripts trying this. Sweeping or avoiding them is the only option until the first tank arrives. The build time needs to be longer so Pios can't lay them right next to a horde of conscripts !

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2014, 05:01 AMthe_onion_man

S-mine damage and build time is fine.

The problem raised by the OP, that hasn't been addressed yet, is that you can start building them as long as you have 60 munis, but only actually spend 15 for more or less all the benefits in terms of area denial.

So the solution is simple: force Pios to build all four stakes, and spend the whole 60 munis, or else cancel the build and receive nothing (which is, let's be honest, how building absolutely everything else in the game--as well as vCOH--works).

No more spending 15 munis for 60 munis' worth of area denial.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2014, 06:18 AMPorygon

15 muni S-mines is so small and more obvious than Captain Obvious

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2014, 04:03 AMPorygon

No kidding, even if you are drunk enough not focusing fire on the Pio, the S-mine just planted by Pio would be triggered by one cons model and the Pio will be ripped into pieces.

One advantage of S-mine fast planting time is, used to plant at opponents retreat route and wipe out his retreating half dead squad. Best to use against shocks, guards and snipers.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2014, 06:45 AMDerBaer

And as a doctrinal choice, soviets can spam thos pesky little 7 munitions mines all over the place...

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2014, 10:54 AMQubix

That's nonsense sorry. The build time is like 1 second so you can't focus fire them and also small arms do not trigger mines and the Pio can simply retreat after finishing one part of the minefield. It's funny how ALL of your posts are PRO Ostheer and your stats show that you almost exclusively play OH.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2014, 12:11 PMPorygon

So I exclusively playing Ostheer, still getting Soviet top 20, meaning what? MVGame

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2014, 12:11 PMPorygon

So I exclusively playing Ostheer, still getting Soviet top 20, meaning what? MVGame