IS2 are you kidding me?
17 Mar 2014, 23:43 PM
#81
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And for the price and sacrifices you have to make to obtain it, it's not particularly very good. It's meh.
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17 Mar 2014, 23:46 PM
#82
Posts: 2779
I stopped using the IS2. Just an awful unit that begs to be called primary target. Can be countered with two shrek squads. Much power, so slow, dead, wow.
WTF? You asleep while playing?
18 Mar 2014, 02:42 AM
#83
Posts: 254
IS-2 and ISU-152 have way too fast reload times.
18 Mar 2014, 04:00 AM
#84
Posts: 210
18 Mar 2014, 11:01 AM
#85
Posts: 2779
Saying IS2 is too expensive is pretty a joke or thinking getting an IS2 after teching up and having some tanks.
Consspam, shock spam into IS2 is totally a bitch strategy. (but I use it anyway
)
Consspam, shock spam into IS2 is totally a bitch strategy. (but I use it anyway
)
18 Mar 2014, 12:20 PM
#86
Posts: 1042
good luck surviving the first german tank (or even flame HT) with that strat though...
18 Mar 2014, 12:33 PM
#87
Posts: 2779
good luck surviving the first german tank (or even flame HT) with that strat though...
Mines and AT nade will do, just stop the pio reaching the HT can stall it all day long，ofc keep getting cutoff and fuel as primary target.
18 Mar 2014, 12:56 PM
#88
Posts: 66
you're all cry babies. tigers are a direct counter and they are cheaper
18 Mar 2014, 13:34 PM
#89
Posts: 1637
good luck surviving the first german tank (or even flame HT) with that strat though...
It works. And it is a bitch strat had a guy use it on my two different times. Con Spam to Shocks to 3x Zis to KV8 Attack move blob to base lose majority of force call in IS2 to clean up whats left.
And he had enough AT nades to sit in my HTs fire and AT nade it to death while taking little damage.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
18 Mar 2014, 16:10 PM
#90
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Range of flames > range of AT nades. Learn to kite.
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18 Mar 2014, 16:16 PM
#91
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It's a decent tactic which I have both played myself and faced against me. It's good versus german T3 builds because P4s don't do a whole lot vs KV8s and stugs are bad vs mass field guns.
What beats it is a combination of german T4 and (optionally) a commander with either a mortar halftrack or the light artillery barrage ability.
What beats it is a combination of german T4 and (optionally) a commander with either a mortar halftrack or the light artillery barrage ability.
18 Mar 2014, 17:42 PM
#92
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Range of flames > range of AT nades. Learn to kite.
And learn to flank
ISU152 range > P4, P4 can't win hur?
18 Mar 2014, 18:32 PM
#93
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Totally. Use the magic kite and flank ability known as blitzkrieg. Not only does it give you more speed, but accuracy! Pure magic at the touch of a button.
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18 Mar 2014, 18:45 PM
#94
Posts: 2053
It is all about the killzones. If you can defend a position well enough, it can kill any unit. Two IS-2's, a field gun, some shocks and CE for repairs can go a long way in defending an unflankable position. The only possible way to kill an elefant is to flank it and destroy its engines, and then its toast. I charged two IS-2's at an elefant, incinedary bombed the surrounding paks and one lucky IS-2 shot stunned the elefant. Instant rape pursued as it was overtaken. Do not underestimate the power of the Soviets, sometimes. Other times, the soviets are toast.
18 Mar 2014, 19:03 PM
#95
Posts: 1637
Range of flames > range of AT nades. Learn to kite.
Gee thanks for the nugget of truth. Too bad he trusight flanked me and hit it with an AT nade since he did have 8 scripts on the field. Then its just throw the rest of the AT nades till its dead.
I do it all the time. In fact AT nades is all i usually kill Flame HTs with. It just takes three. I dont even bother with Guards.
Its not as easy as you think to manage fighting all those Scripts and NOT getting an AT nade on a HT due to its pathing.....
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
19 Mar 2014, 00:49 AM
#96
Posts: 4928
Range of flames > range of AT nades. Learn to kite.
Yeah you have a whole 5 range over the AT Nade. That's more than the length it takes the Half-Track to stop moving after it gets into attack range. In-game it's barely the length of a T-70. 5 range is nothing when it comes to charging at something to grenade it, and if you can kite with just a buffer zone of 5, then you should probably play in the tournaments because even MNF players constantly get Engine Damage on their FHT.
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19 Mar 2014, 04:31 AM
#97
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The latest cast of ImperialDane just showing how powerful and easy is that bitch doctrine and strategy.
The Soviet played like shit but still manage to stall an hour game, continuos wiping out German squad with their super high health & instant squad wipe units, without any skill involved.
Does Ostheer have flame 251? Yes
Does Ostheer have heavy tanks? Yes, Brummbar and Panther
Tech up? Who cares? Get IS2 MVGame
If he didn't throw resource away for KV8 and get 2nd IS2, he won the game already.
If Soviet can hold out half of the map and keep harassing cutoff and fuel, IS2 can come into party (without any teching) while Ostheer can throw out a P4 only 1-2 mins before IS2 arrive. IMO, that doctrine is totally madness. Every time if I play like shit in early game, I just grab that doctrine and grab an easy win after that.
I had a game of 2v2 with both me and my partner doing that, ends up 6 IS2 roflstomp everything in Semois.
The Soviet played like shit but still manage to stall an hour game, continuos wiping out German squad with their super high health & instant squad wipe units, without any skill involved.
Does Ostheer have flame 251? Yes
Does Ostheer have heavy tanks? Yes, Brummbar and Panther
Tech up? Who cares? Get IS2 MVGame
If he didn't throw resource away for KV8 and get 2nd IS2, he won the game already.
If Soviet can hold out half of the map and keep harassing cutoff and fuel, IS2 can come into party (without any teching) while Ostheer can throw out a P4 only 1-2 mins before IS2 arrive. IMO, that doctrine is totally madness. Every time if I play like shit in early game, I just grab that doctrine and grab an easy win after that.
I had a game of 2v2 with both me and my partner doing that, ends up 6 IS2 roflstomp everything in Semois.
19 Mar 2014, 04:54 AM
#98
Posts: 4928
Ironically the skill with the IS-2 is keeping it alive rather than wrecking face with it. It has high armour, damage, etc. But the comparatively low health is a weak point that can easily be exploited if you fuck up.
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19 Mar 2014, 05:06 AM
#99
Posts: 2779
Ironically the skill with the IS-2 is keeping it alive rather than wrecking face with it. It has high armour, damage, etc. But the comparatively low health is a weak point that can easily be exploited if you fuck up.
I totally vote against a Pershing with KT armor, and the croc Churchill with turret plus KT armor. It just make the game ridiculous.
19 Mar 2014, 07:15 AM
#100
Posts: 36
The heading says it all. IS2 are you kidding me?
The tank is so expensive! The time between the shot’s is so long. It often misses complete. Btw I never had a squad wipe with this tank since the last patch. But more often it simply misses everything. Worst thing a single panther can handle it. The cheaper Tiger also.
IS2 are you kidding me?
The tank is so expensive! The time between the shot’s is so long. It often misses complete. Btw I never had a squad wipe with this tank since the last patch. But more often it simply misses everything. Worst thing a single panther can handle it. The cheaper Tiger also.
IS2 are you kidding me?
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