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Then why dont you let us see the tactic in action instead of looking at your pictures and trying to imagine what happens?
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Have you used this tactic or faced this tactic in game?
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?..The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and... the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough...We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
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Are we in agreement that the combo has been "looked"? Or do you have something you want to add to your OP.
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Classic "forum warrior" card.
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No we are not.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?..The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and... the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough...We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
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And here is another example of this tactic with an infatry drop.
https://www.coh2.org/file/20185/rore3.jpg
As one can see this takes place at 1:38 with not enough mu for snare and force a retreat on the SP
and since there 2 okw on that side there a second infatry drop at 2:41 again forcing a retreat.
https://www.coh2.org/file/20187/rore5.jpg
And here is another example
UKF player finds first OKW does an infatry and forces a retreat on his volk and at this point the second okw player send all hit troops to help:
https://www.coh2.org/file/20188/ror6.jpg
at thing point does another infatry drop on first player's SP forcing another retreat and almost a wipe at which point his also retreats while he teammates has gain control uncontested.
https://www.coh2.org/file/20189/ror7.jpg
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You're gonna need a replay.
1st photo both OKW players are floating at the 90 second mark. Bad engagement or not, if you're floating 90 seconds in when you have 2 squads you'll probably lose map control.
2nd photo orange goes for SwS after he had 2 squads and a rak. Locks in firestorm and if the plan is mp40s has 1 volk. From the photos you've given, these players just don't look that good.
1st photo, you'd have to be willingly sending your units to the stupidest postions to lose this engagement. There's 2 sturms, a volk and a kubel vs a UC, royal and a section, and the royal isn't even shooting because he's in the UC.
2nd photo what a surprise, axis wins the engagement. Sturms retreating late and almost getting wiped is a player issue not a DPS on royals issue. These aren't thompson paratroopers.
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I have to keep reminding myself of how funny it is. Like, a couple of sceenshot from a game of some Chinese playing axis poorly and Uc drop troop with RRo.e suddenly go from a troll strat to a fully viable competitive tactic. One of those okw have total of about 14 kill in a 14+ minutes long match, lol.
Edit: The chinese player was actually among the better part of the axis team and i mean no offensive, sorry.
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The tactic allows call in troops to enter the fight earlier. UKF player can have numerical superiority regardless of what the okw did there.
CP 0 call in infatry start on CD just to avoid this problem but the transportation reduces the time they need to enter combat and that reduces the effects of the CD.
real question is there anything they could had done better to counter the concentration of UKF units that early in the game.
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"Floating" 14 second of manpower has not real bearing in the tactic especially any unit produced wouldn't even have been produced. Firesturm is good vs UKF because it can be used to counter emplacements.
The tactic allows call in troops to enter the fight earlier. UKF player can have numerical superiority regardless of what the okw did there.
CP 0 call in infatry start on CD just to avoid this problem but the transportation reduces the time they need to enter combat and that reduces the effects of the CD.
Those are examples of how infatry drop work even vs SP. The UC-rore has already forced a VG to retreat (causing 2 casualties) and they are loaded so they the can do the next drop on SP and force them to retreat also.
We can debate if the player are good or not but the real question is there anything they could had done better to counter the concentration of UKF units that early in the game.
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Then I suggest you stop stop adding pages to it by posting in it.
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Speaking of ealy game, the 30s built time and 7.5 speed of the kubel (stat from modding tool, stand for correction) has always allowed okw to have 2 unit at any contested area faster than anybody else if rush, bearing not only numberical but also firepower superiority. But none of that seem to have been a problem at all.
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cooldown infantry universally got nerfed for one and only one reason: assault grenadiers, which would let you get 3 squads absurdly fast
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And it is not a problem for a very simple reason.
OKW are designed to an aggressive and UKF are designed as a defensive one.
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Ost is designed to be a defensive faction and they have access to 0Cp aggressive call in infantry (so dose UKF).
Okw is designed to be an aggressive fation and their mainline infantry can immediately dig in with sandbags.
USF is designed to be an aggressive fation and doctrine ability allow them to dig in as well.
Thus, saying OKW having early game superiority is not an issue while UKF having the same (with doctrine) is an issue because "faction is designed to be like so" is nonsense. Those two are either issue, or none of them is.
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Nope your conclusion is completely wrong different faction play differently and a something that perfectly fine in one faction can be broken in another.
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So in your opinion, the combine of UC and RRo.e are broken or not ? You said they are not game breaking before so are you going against your own word now ?
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