Could Officer squad have weapon upgrade？

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 06:12 AMKlement Pikhtura

UKF officer has an assault rifle. It used to be LMG, now it is a BAR clone.

Commissar, Luftwaffe and Sturm Offizier are already very cost efficient. Adding upgrade to them might make them OP. BTW after OKW guy gets an Pgren STG and OST gets an FG42.

Also 5 men LMG34 "ober" squad with lots of sight is a very bad idea.

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 09:04 AMVipper

Commissar gets an extra model at vet 1

LT/Cap start with Thompson can upgrade with racks with a single weapon

Sturm officer get a ST44 at vet 5 (a bit late)

Assault Officer can upgrade with Veicker-K and get en extra model at vet 2

That leaves the Artillery Field/Luft Officer with the sort and of the stick having both the worse SMG and getting no weapon upgrades/extra entities.

Imo AFO should replace the luger with ST44 as upgrade or a vet bonus so that the unit can contribute more DPS in late. Alternatively "diversion" scale with vet.

Luft officer could start with K-98 instead and upgrade with 2 FG42 or one LMG.

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 09:23 AMWAAAGH2000

Agree for AFO and Luft Officer.
IMO Commissar and Sturm Office extra model ……not good enough？
For LT/Cap I think it could have more Thompson / LMG upgrade make them more different and more effect than Riflemen.

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 10:03 AMVipper

Generally speaking about officer I would remove XP sharing from the ones that can fight that would leave Major and maybe Ostheer ones if they stay the same.

Commissar is quite cheap and once vet one punches above his cost so if he becomes better he might need a price increase. Imo being cheaper is better.

Sturm officer has obers K98 main issues is the synergy of luger and K98 and the high XP value.

For UKF assault officer I would rather test a version that is cheaper available earlier and modeled more like assault IS and not commandos.

For USF officer I would rather seem them redesigned completely.

LT model as Cav riflemen having 1+2 Thompsons grenades/on me ability.

Cap more defensive with Ranger M1 He grenade and Rapid barrage/fake rapid barrage (unlock with T3)

Major with Ranger M1, supervision, establish retreat point and "battle field" surveillance using binoculars to get SU-85 type vision.

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 08:36 AMWAAAGH2000

I think single UKF LMG or full squad Thomson SMG hard to say which better，more choice will be better？
For East front commander squad，maybe upgrade come later will be balance？Also could balance by number of weapons.
OKW StormOfficer not Ober，they bring LMG34 will be normal type，also could limit need deployed T4 same as Ober？At least I wish IRstg could for StormOfficer squad or more commander special squad like JLI or Fusslier if will have new commander.
Just want more choice and make some unit more effect，thanks reply.

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 10:21 AMWAAAGH2000

I like those ideas for UKF and USF，and I wish make all commander squad have same weapon，sometimes when pick up slot item and lost some men，slot weapon will replace special unit weapon，like sometimes USF Officer squad only have LT/CPL and have slot items，LT/CPL will replace Thompson by slot item until lost LT/CPL model.Or just make LT/CPL Thompson could pass same as other weapon？

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 10:27 AMVipper

Think that USF Thompson passing to other entities on death could use some issue since when reinforced that squad would now have to 2 Thompson.

I guess one could change them to work like other squads and simply have 1 Thompson total in the squads...

With my suggestion there would be less need for a change since LT squad would still have 2 Thompson even without the LT entity and Cap would use the same weapons.

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 10:03 AMVipper

...main issues is the synergy of luger and K98 and the high XP value...

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 14:03 PMdonofsandiego

How so? I've never heard it mentioned before.

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 21:06 PMVipper

Luger loses most of DPS above range 10 and contributes very little at long range so it does not have good synergy with K98 which has good long range DPS.

The XP value of officer is 780 the second highest in game which higher than even shock troops and rangers.

Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2021, 21:06 PMVipper

Luger loses most of DPS above range 10 and contributes very little at long range so it does not have good synergy with K98 which has good long range DPS.

The XP value of officer is 780 the second highest in game which higher than even shock troops and rangers.

Jump back to quoted post28 Nov 2021, 13:49 PMdonofsandiego

Ah. When you said "synergy", I thought you meant in a positive way.

Jump back to quoted post28 Nov 2021, 13:46 PMEasy ♠

What do you mean by XP value?