Why Brits Armor

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 12:09 PMullumulu

and even has smoke to blind a critical area from far range.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 12:04 PMC3 TOOTH

Comet MG deal 5dmg, Panther MG deal 4dmg.
Which means Comet MGs do 10 total, Panther do 12.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 12:04 PMC3 TOOTH

Comet MG deal 5dmg, Panther MG deal 4dmg.
Which means Comet MGs do 10 total, Panther do 12.

Comet round has 2.5 AOE, Panther has 0.5 AOE.

Comet has grenade at vet 2

Comet has phosphorus round to burn infantries.

So......

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 14:11 PMMr Carmine

Yeah so does the panther lock you out of other units? Doesn't the panther outpreform the comet in other areas? Or are we gonna pretend it doesnt?

The panther has less aoe but better pen.
The panther has 160 more hp and simaler armour values. More range and better reload at vet.

Dont just type stuff off one unit does well and leave out everything the other does well. Its a misleading picture wich can make it look biased.

I do feel the combo of nades and wp is too much. One or the other should go.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 14:11 PMMr Carmine

Yeah so does the panther lock you out of other units? Doesn't the panther outpreform the comet in other areas? Or are we gonna pretend it doesnt?

The panther has less aoe but better pen.
The panther has 160 more hp and simaler armour values. More range and better reload at vet.

Dont just type stuff off one unit does well and leave out everything the other does well. Its a misleading picture wich can make it look biased.

I do feel the combo of nades and wp is too much. One or the other should go.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 16:11 PMC3 TOOTH

I know Panther is better at AT and also has soft AA that Comet cant do.

But its AI isnt good to say like they're on par with Comet AI.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 17:42 PMMr Carmine

Its ai shoudnt be as good as the comets ai.
As the panther is supirior in at and it is more tanky with more range more pen and better reload. Plus both axis faction have enough powerfull ai options already. Not that brits dont have that but not on (super)heavy tanks.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 06:10 AMullumulu

enlight me pls...which great AI option has OKW in lategame? p4?
a KT?

?

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 07:08 AMKlement Pikhtura

you answered your question. Both options are top tier options in their respective class.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 07:18 AMullumulu

its the only option OKW has, but sadly they are bad.
P4 is a minute 15 medium which has not the power to deal good in really lategame. (mostly teamgames)
KT is on most maps and most teamplays a useless punchingball bullied by so good AT options from allies.
to slow, to slow turret, to many TD and other AT option which means it is more in repair than on front. thats why you never see a KT in most games in high ranks. only some maps are ok for it.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 07:38 AMKlement Pikhtura

KT with panzer commander and Spearhead has over 60 vision, while JP4 can cover it and deal with TDs. Good scatter, really good oneshotkill radius. Just don't yolo it like a medium.
p4 is great at any stage, like almost any medium for any faction, but Cromwell, if UKF teched for Comet. It is kind of expensive to replace, but in terms of its capabilities, especially AI, it is pretty high up there.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 09:56 AMullumulu

yeah..but comets, Easy8s, t34 85s, and other sherman versions are much better in a wolfspack than a p4 wolfspack / spam.

due to more and better abiltys like smoke, fire rounds, better accuracy on the move, cheaper, selfrepair, better combatilys to other units and commander abiltys, ram etc...

a easy 8 wolfpack is much more scarier than a p4 wolfpack.

or the best wolfpack is comet spam...its like the craziest think in the armor department. combine this warspeed, tank commander, some td, any nice abiltys ..and you overrun everthing easily.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 12:20 PMKlement Pikhtura

the answer to any medium spam is panthers. Direct counter. Also the initial discussion was about AI performance.

Look, I highly doubt that you will start respecting your fav faction's units more from forum comments, but at least check out unit's stats and download "Cheat Command" with test map, if you don't want to play Allies.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 12:40 PMullumulu

when you spam panthers, you stay alone in AT department.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 12:40 PMullumulu

you dont get the point, right?
i know that panthers can deal with medium. everybody know.

the point is:

when you spam panthers, you stay alone in AT department. even 3 panthers cant deal with AT like one comet could. comets spam is such craty thing, because you can deal with ALLLLLLL targets. 2 or 3 at guns is not a deal for one comet...when you play this tank right. (smoke one or two at guns, circle the orther, trwo grenades, wipe crew with 1 or 2 shots, shot phosphor round, have incredble god speed and mobilty)

you can deal with panthers and other AT plattforms easily in a wolfpack, since every other mobile AT plattform from axis is a turret-less TD.
squads near by get wiped easily by comets spam, so no...this isnt a good counter. mines are least chance to pray to god.

combine your comet spam with double piat pios and wipe the floor with everything which the enemy could field.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 13:21 PMKlement Pikhtura

A-moving Obers? Also "Elite Armored" with HEAT rounds exists. Not saying that comet spam is easy to beat, but it is far from OP, especially if comets are diving.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 13:54 PMullumulu

playercard pls....from what rank/skill do we talk here?

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 15:30 PMMr Carmine

Haha you cant win the argument and then resort to playercard.... clasic lol

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2021, 17:19 PMullumulu

its only to qualify the experience level we talk about here...rank 1000? or rank > 100?