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Ya at vet 3. Good luck getting a stuart to vet 3
It have just under 44 at vet 1 which is barely more than a pio squad
Doesnt scout that well tbh, but its okay cuz m20 is right there anyway
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Start get 56 vision with veterancy and it scout just fine.
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TOTAL POSSIBLE STUART VISION = 45 AT VET 1
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There is a major difference between "it cannot Scout or be used for Vision" and "does not scout that well" so you should be explain that to Kurobane and not me.
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Nah your post was much more misleading
It does not scout "just fine". ANd you will almost never see a vet 3 stuart so saying its gets 56 with vet is pointless
Are you implying that Puma and AEC are not light tanks? they get 50 vision...
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Will not even bother responding
Even at vet 1 it gets 45 vision so it can "be used for Vision", once at vet 3 with sight 56 it can "scout" quite effectively, contrary to has been posted.
I am not implying it, I am saying it clearly, no there are not light tanks, tank have tracks, they are both armored cars.
Now can you pls move on?
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But u did respond lol, soooo
The stuart is not a scouting unit, scouting units dont need to vet up just to have more than default vision... m20 literally in the same tier
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Stuart
-Only Light Vehicle with 35 Vision compared to 50 for most other light vehicles (including Kubelwagon) So it
cannot Scout or be used for Vision.
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Im talking about role. PUMa and AEC clearly are treated as light tanks in the game. 3 shots to kill, they punch much harder than 222, m3a1, m20, and cost much more. And having wheels vs tracks has nothing to do with vision....
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T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
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vipper is using the exception as the rule. The fact is, if you compare the total amount of stuarts that have reached vet3 and compare it to the the total that have reached vet1 and even more so, the total number of stuarts ever produced, you will find that the tool most people are using is the vet0 stuart. So trying to say it's a good scout vehicle because once you get it to vet3 just isn't good. Most stuarts are not reaching vet3 and the amount that do are a small fraction. We can't have a balance discussion over something that is 10% at best(I'm sure it's closer to 1%).
Do any of those 50 vision vet0 vehicles get vision upgrades with vet?
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wtf did i just read... the stuart is a waste of fuel and serves no role for USF?
this is arguably one of the most useful light tanks in the game and literally build in 90% of all USF games (1v1) as a result.
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T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
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Feel free to inform Kurobane about it instead of me, he is the one comparing the Stuart to a Kubel.
No they not "treated" as lights tanks but as "heavy armored cars".
I am not even sure why you want to argue semantics, you asked if they are light tanks and I pointed out that since they do not have tracks they are not.
Unless want to argue that Stuart should but "cannot Scout or be used for Vision" as kurobane claims, I am not even sure what is the point you are trying to make, so I suggest you move on.
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Stuart could just use a buff, 50 sight range default would be useful but USF doesnt rly need more scout
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wtf did i just read... the stuart is a waste of fuel and serves no role for USF?
this is arguably one of the most useful light tanks in the game and literally build in 90% of all USF games (1v1) as a result. decent AI paired with excellent AT against anything of its class or lower - and to top it off you have vehicle crews for quick fixing and shell shock to give it some utility in the later stages of the game.
the ATHT might pale in comparison, but i wouldn't say it's a bad unit at all. it deals decent suppression and can stand its ground against most other light vehicles when supported properly, although it does lack some survivabiliity due to being 320 HP and not having any sort of defensive smoke. i think the major reason it is not built all too often is that it comes in cpt tier and the lt / .50 / stuart combo is much safer and more efficient to play.
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Useful =! good. He is useful because he comes with the Lt, m20 and HMG, put it back into captain tier and no one will remember it.
But at the moment the biggest offender is the AAHT that suppress badly.
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The AAHT is one of the few units that can suppress on the move so I am not sure why that is "badly".
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Lulz okay dude, cuz your not arguing semantics
It clearly compares more to puma and aec than to luchs and t70 tho. Call them whatever u want, if its supposed to be a hybrid of those (no?) then it should get buffed against inf
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