Major Too overpriced

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 17:50 PMHannibal

1) what should that achieve? USF armor comes at similar timings as all other factions. Resource investment is similar to OKW and Soviets.

2) USF has the strongest main line in the game, I don't see why they need a non doc elite infantry.

3) OKW T3 tech was split only to allow better timing of Obers and doctrinal units. It had nothing to do with the gun, since the cost for getting the gun stayed the same. If you want to lock down a sector with the HQ, you do it in almost the same time as before

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 17:34 PMT70xwing

Major is just too overpriced and offer too little in terms of tier offering yes USF tanks are very powerful in right hands and major's abalites can offer good ultility but its simply not enough

but perhaps there can be an alternative solution


1 reduce the major's cost to 90 fuel but add a side teching called chrysler defense aresnal it already exists too. so you see when im not sweating in 1 vs 1 and raging i hop into a all units 180 mod and a bridge map when you first activate the major you can only bulid M10 M8 and Veichle crews to get anything more powerful chrysler defense arsenal needed to be upgraded

2 add a tier 4 elite infantry squad to USF this is something they despeartely need in order to remain compettive in late game im thinking of removing the rangers from the doctrine and add them to BCP then the side tech to upgrade the tanks

same way OKW flak HQ has to while i understand the circumstances are different that OKW flak upgrade to give players a chance to kill it so it cant lock a cut off point down but Major is simply not worth paying 300 MP and 55 fuel or 500 MP and 70 fuel just to enable and then 190 MP to 120 fuel

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 19:35 PMCreativeName

hows major tier not enough? you get a utility unit FOR FREE that can carry zooks. Thats one utility unit with zooks more than any other faction

m10 should not be a stock unit, its simply too strong for a non-doc unit
usf doesnt need non-doc elite infantry either, rifles are just fine for the most part and t4 rangers would be terrible, even worse timing than in the live version

i suggest you make the tech math for otehr factions first, come back and compare actual numbers, throwing some costs in an empty room and saying its not enough is not a argument

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 19:48 PMT70xwing

abality to carry free zooks ? did you said that as i said to hannibal abality to carry weapons from racks dont make or break a unit its not free you still pay MP and fuel to unlock him

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 19:55 PMPip

The unit is free. You're paying for your tiered tech, and getting an Officer unit as a bonus on top of that, just like with the Lieutenant and Captain. You only pay for the Officer if you purchase him for a second time, the first time you receive him you are not purchasing the Officer.

EDIT: This is why the recent change to Officers was giving USF players the ability to force them off of the field, rather than the tech levels being made cheaper, and not automatically granting the Officer units. There ostensibly isnt a "cost" involved in the Officer himself.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:14 PMCreativeName

Ye, balance team doesnt give a shit... guess thats why there are multiple threads about each faction every patch

And yes, what you ask for will never gonna happen cause its a terrible idea. Pretty simple
Alot of community requested changes have been implemented over the last patches btw

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:17 PMT70xwing

in what world 50 cal nerf is a requested change its already a weak MG now its worthless

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:20 PMCreativeName

It was requested by basically everyone, in what universe do you live? If you seriously think its worthless we have nothing to talk about, guess its my fault for falling into a troll thread. have fun playing bridge maps

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:30 PMCreativeName

Dont act like youre the voice of the people

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 17:34 PMT70xwing

Major is just too overpriced and offer too little in terms of tier offering yes USF tanks are very powerful in right hands and major's abalites can offer good ultility but its simply not enough

recon, a retreat point and arty isnt good enough? what in the cinnamon toast fuck are you on about? all of his abilities get better with vet as well, extra planes for the recon, extra shells for the arty and the ability to lock down and thus prevent the enemy from capping points at vet 3.... all ion a free unit!

but perhaps there can be an alternative solution


1 reduce the major's cost to 90 fuel but add a side teching called chrysler defense aresnal it already exists too. so you see when im not sweating in 1 vs 1 and raging i hop into a all units 180 mod and a bridge map when you first activate the major you can only bulid M10 M8 and Veichle crews to get anything more powerful chrysler defense arsenal needed to be upgraded

why? usf doesnt need more tiered teching, especially not more units in it.

2 add a tier 4 elite infantry squad to USF this is something they despeartely need in order to remain compettive in late game im thinking of removing the rangers from the doctrine and add them to BCP then the side tech to upgrade the tanks

again.... why? do rifles suddenly not have access to BARs? usf is designed so that vetted and armed rifles ARE your elite infantry. they wont 1v1 obers, but anything less they will make into meat. if you feel rifles are not sufficient, id sooner officers be made into an elite unit anolog than adding a very strong doctrinal unit to their core

same way OKW flak HQ has to while i understand the circumstances are different that OKW flak upgrade to give players a chance to kill it so it cant lock a cut off point down but Major is simply not worth paying 300 MP and 55 fuel or 500 MP and 70 fuel just to enable and then 190 MP to 120 fuel

yes, the circumstances are different. wildy different... and thats about all the sense i made out of that last line.... usf teching is roughly in line with all other factions. they have good power spikes afforded by the free officers and great vehicles as well as the crew mechanic that m4easnt hey dont have to bog themselves down with co9mbat ineffective engineers.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:31 PMT70xwing

and im not gonna back down until you refute my points with a legit argument

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:09 PMT70xwing

officer is not free you pay for the officer he unlocks the bulidng and also the officer transfer does jack shit why in the hell people would willingly trade away an officer any transfer based abality does not fit into a multiplayer game like seriously there is no point in arguing what i ask is never gonna happen anyway


because communnity balance team dont give 2 shits about people like me they only care about the opinions of top players who only touch USF once win with it and go about their buisness with their main armies

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:31 PMT70xwing

never said i was but you sure are acting Like it im done arguing with you i know im right and im not gonna back down until you refute my points with a legit argument you said everyone requested the 50 cal nerf which one are you speaking for them too you are doing the same thing that you accuse me of doing