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Commander Revamp ideas

10 Mar 2021, 04:52 AM
#1
avatar of KT610

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Some Ideas I have for the next patch focusing on Commanders.

USF-Rifle Company

(0CP)- Sherman "Easy eight"


(0cp)- Riflemen Field Defenses


(0cp)- Advanced Infantry Equipment


(2cp)- Fired up! (removed)


(2cp)- Master Sergeant (replaces Fired up!)


Riflemen Squad size increased from 5 to 6
Riflemen Squad Reinforce cost reduced from 28 to 26
Riflemen Squad Gains Fired up!
Upgrade takes up one wepaon slot


(6cp) white phosphorous Barrage


Ostheer-Lighting War


(0cp)- Panzer 4 J (Replaces relief infantry)


(2cp)- Jaeger light infantry equipment (reworked for all commanders with this ability)


When Grenadiers are upgraded with G43s their rifle grenade is replaced with Model 24 Stielhandgranate


(4CP)- Tactical Movement


(6cp)- relief infantry (removed)


(12cp)-Stuka Close air support


(12cp)-Tiger tank


Soviet-Conscripts Support Tactics


(0CP)-KV-1 Tank


(2CP)-Conscript Assault package (reworked for all commanders with this ability)

When Conscript are upgraded with PPsh submachine gun their Molotov Cocktails is replaced with RG-42 Anti-Personnel Grenade

(2cp)-Commissar command squad (replaces rapid conscription)


(5cp)-conscript repair kit


(6cp)-rapid conscription (removed)


(7cp)-incendiary artillery Barrage


OKW-Scavenge Doctrine


(Ocp)-Expanded Motor pool (replaces Ostwind)


SdKfz 251/1 Half-track added to Command HQ requires Battlegroup HQ or Mechanized Reg. HQ

Ostwind available from Schwerer Panzer HQ

(0cp)-Thorough Salvage


(1cp)-Jeager Recon Squad


(3cp) infiltration tactics (reworked for all commanders with this ability)

infiltration tactics is now an upgrade available to Volks and Obers (cost 25 muntions)

Squad gain camouflage in cover and the grenade assault ability


(9cp)-105mm Barrage



















11 Mar 2021, 01:47 AM
#2
avatar of NaOCl

Posts: 378

Ostheer-Lighting War

(0cp)- Panzer 4 J (Replaces relief infantry)
(2cp)- Jaeger light infantry equipment (reworked for all commanders with this ability)
When Grenadiers are upgraded with G43s their rifle grenade is replaced with Model 24 Stielhandgranate
(4CP)- Tactical Movement
(6cp)- relief infantry (removed)
(12cp)-Stuka Close air support
(12cp)-Tiger tank

Relief infantry needs to go, but giving P-IV here would make this doctrine a pick always.
11 Mar 2021, 02:44 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Mar 2021, 04:52 AMKT610



(2cp)- Master Sergeant (replaces Fired up!)


Riflemen Squad size increased from 5 to 6
Riflemen Squad Reinforce cost reduced from 28 to 26
Riflemen Squad Gains Fired up!
Upgrade takes up one wepaon slot




11 Mar 2021, 03:16 AM
#4
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Mar 2021, 04:52 AMKT610


(0cp)- Panzer 4 J (Replaces relief infantry)



Does Relief Infantry work at all now? It used to give so many squads that I would use them as throw-aways. Now it doesn't seem to give any.
11 Mar 2021, 04:00 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 01:47 AMNaOCl
Ostheer-Lighting War

(0cp)- Panzer 4 J (Replaces relief infantry)
(2cp)- Jaeger light infantry equipment (reworked for all commanders with this ability)
When Grenadiers are upgraded with G43s their rifle grenade is replaced with Model 24 Stielhandgranate
(4CP)- Tactical Movement
(6cp)- relief infantry (removed)
(12cp)-Stuka Close air support
(12cp)-Tiger tank

Relief infantry needs to go, but giving P-IV here would make this doctrine a pick always.


Making commander superiour to others does not make it better.
11 Mar 2021, 04:41 AM
#6
avatar of NaOCl

Posts: 378



Making commander superiour to others does not make it better.


Hey man, It's my fav OST commander, Giving it everything is too strong. I'd love panzer tactician in there, but again, too many tools.
11 Mar 2021, 06:01 AM
#7
avatar of KT610

Posts: 69



Making commander superiour to others does not make it better.


Do you have any suggestions that for something that would work better? I was thinking giving the doctrine a Panzer II instead or the OKW Panzer commander upgrade instead. (the upgrade would be for P4s and Panthers only)
11 Mar 2021, 06:29 AM
#8
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 06:01 AMKT610


Do you have any suggestions that for something that would work better? I was thinking giving the doctrine a Panzer II instead or the OKW Panzer commander upgrade instead. (the upgrade would be for P4s and Panthers only)


Last time i checked lightning war was perfectly fine for what it brought to the table. Imo adding more would make it overtuned. There are plenty of commanders the need some tuning. Like festung support, mobile defense, mechanized and close air support (although that one might just be me)
11 Mar 2021, 07:04 AM
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Lighting war should lose the Stuka Loiter...
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