Encirclement doctrine reimagining

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I think everyone can agree that Encirclement doctrine is a meme commander and right now it has no real place even in slightly-compepitive game. So in past few days I really want to rethink this commander, don't know if anyone would like it even more implement it. But still I really wanted to make my ideas public.

Commander is very muni heavy, so I think it didnt end up overpowered, while having some powerful abilities.

Main idea behind it - make you able to know the enemy positioning and make it softer by doing some diversions behind enemy lines, after that strike with one decisive attack using special abilities to hunt down key enemy units.

1CP - Model 24 stun grenade
2CP - Ambush Jaegers Squad

What is it
3 men squad, for 300 MP.

Comes with 3 grenadier rifles
Have standart camo in cover
Have sprint by default
Can use stun grenade

Can be upgraded with 1 of 2 packages

Tank Hunter package - 60 muni. Gives 2 panzerbuchse rifles.
- Grenades replaced with panzerfaust
- Gives ability to lay AT mines
- Weaker Buttom Vehicle for 40 muni (10 seconds)
- At vet 3 gives mark vehicle ability (80 muni)
Combat support package - 120 muni. Gives 2 scoped g43 rifles.
- Activatable binoculars ability, when in cover. Increases sight (simular to su85), when activated squad resives rec.acc penalty and cant shoot
- Snipe ability at vet 1 (50 muni). Can snipe 1 model (if squad has more then 1 model alive), after snipe gives squad a suppresion. Cant be used on squads in buildings.

4CP - Tactical movement
7CP - Command P4
10 CP - Close the pocket, remake of the ability

150 muni

Targeted on sector
Stuka Recon Plane will fly above the targeted sector. Plane cant be shutdown by AA
Units in selected sector resives accuracy and speed buffs

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I think you got that wrong.
Its a meme, yes, and we love it.

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Terrible

Playercard of T.R. Stormjäger

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	1v1: 11	streak: - 2
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7 Jul 2020, 20:56 PMBaba

I think you got that wrong.
Its a meme, yes, and we love it.

Yeah, pretty much

Also, the game NEEDS shit like that

To slighty elaborate:

Things that delete squads (or in this case armies) in a second are considered bad for competitive, but they provide a lot of material for the likes of Skippy, Stalker Cop and other youtube videos and clip makers, who then draw a lotta new players in, while also keeping up casuals and semi-serious players who are getting tired or burnt out of meta stuff

History teaches us that making a game with 100% competitive side in mind is a terrible mistake

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8 Jul 2020, 21:33 PMadamírcz

History teaches us that making a game with 100% competitive side in mind is a terrible mistake

That's such a broad and false generalist argument. It all depends on the kind of playerbase you have. There are plenty of the top chart games which have their gameplay focused completely in competitive. CS:GO, LOL/DOTA, R6, OW/Valorant, SC2, etc.

A terrible mistake is forcing a vision of a game, on a non existent playerbase for that vision.

Ontopic: the idea is bad and it's fine to have this kind of meme commanders which work on specific modes.

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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.

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8 Jul 2020, 21:33 PMadamírcz

History teaches us that making a game with 100% competitive side in mind is a terrible mistake

Starcraft confirmed a mistake.

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

Good Stuff here

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And brits get the easy version Perimeter Overwatch

Good times.

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General consensus is that squads need at least 4 men to be viable. Three is just way too vulnerable to explosives and randomly getting wiped. Personally I'd rather use the commander as a whole as it is in live rather than this suggested rework, tactical movement is not a great ability, nothing in the doctrine synergizes that well with command P4,, which is mostly a defensive tool, and close the pocket would overlap with tactical movement.

11 Jul 2020, 00:27 AMDerKuhlmann