UTT2 stats

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 12:18 PMBlueKnight

Observations presented above are actually more constructive than a statement that "Allies OP".

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 12:45 PMSgtJonson

Well, the sample size issn´t big. But these are still all Top players. And they are not only top Players in the allied ranking.

Do i have to think that No1 Axis is always weaker than top 20 Allied? I this still a l2p then?

I´m not trying to exaggregate, but this is was i take out of these statistics

EDIT:
This is still only one tournament though. If there would be 2 or 3 others before the next patch i think it would brighten up the picture some might see

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 12:13 PMGeblobt

Maybe the valentine,aec and t70 combo is too good, but isnt the puma the optimal unit vs that?
From what i have seen okw performed quite decent in the mid game. Puma was able to threaten light tanks, stuka wiped team weapons and stg volks dealt with sections and cons. But the longer the game lasted the more the okw player had problems.
Volks cant push is and cons, Kt is worthless, panther is ok but at only and obers die way too fast vs rocket arty. The only reliable late game unit was the stuka. Okw has like no way to deal with blobs/inf in the later stages of the game.

And yeah can we pls remove scopes from jaeger armor and mark target+il2 from the isu doc?

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 13:26 PMAngrade (Ægion)

no T0 grens

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 13:26 PMAngrade (Ægion)

The Puma is the most optimal counter. This tournament to me shows it was generally Ostheer player was lacking. They usually get swarmed so easily with out a non doc puma and no T0 grens. They generally put a heavy weight on their ally. Most of the games I see is that there was no early vickers nor any initial t1/t2 for soviets.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 13:28 PMKatitof

Why are you so fixated on that? Its literally 10 seconds of difference for first 2 squads, then it gets equal, because manpower.
Its not enough time nor resource difference to get swarmed by anything.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 13:32 PMblvckdream

Nope, it was mostly OKW struggling to hold on. Ostheer seemed to do slightly better overall. Just looking back at those Noggano and DevM games where Luvnest and Scotch constantly did better than them using Ostheer.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 11:17 AMKatitof

That's pretty much the only accurate conclusion we can draw from the games.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2020, 20:17 PMKhan

I thought "Sample size is irrelevant for any accurate balance evaluation"

Jump back to quoted post23 Jun 2020, 00:03 AMStug life

>we can't trust auto matches because they take player of all skills and put them with lower skill braket as faction are op so allies are not strong, we can only trust in pros and player who know to play the game and not the wide community

>we can't trust tournament cuase the sample size is too low and is based on meta so no allies are not op

this forum 90% of the time

Jump back to quoted post23 Jun 2020, 02:26 AMIncendiaryRounds

sAmPlE sIzE anD sTatiSTicS dONt mAtTeR! Only when it goes against your narrative. This statement was nowhere to be found 2 months ago when there was only 5 1v1 Brit games and they weren't used particularly well. The measly sample size there was somehow enough to "prove" Brits aren't OP.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jun 2020, 07:16 AMSupremeStefan

Well, I'm not sure anyone asked your opinion.

About stats im glad this is first time when vipper cant say that Jackson is op

Jump back to quoted post23 Jun 2020, 16:30 PMIncendiaryRounds

Since when was there a requirement for anyone to ask for anyone's opinion to post anything? Last time I checked, despite how much the balance team hates me, they've actually implemented MY IDEAS into previous patches like reduced RA on Stugs and giving pgrens some sort of combined arms bonuses with vehicles and doctrinal repairs. Hence my ideas hold a lot more water than yours.

Though someone who says "USF on life support" doesn't deserve any respect, I'll respectfully say that NOBODY cares about your opinion.