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US Pak Howitzer Is Out Of Control

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30 Jun 2020, 14:27 PM
#141
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King I actually agree with you in regards to auto fire

I don't feel there's anything wrong with a ATG being decrewed in 2 or 3 shots if it is barrage. But autoattack wipes with minimal micro involved are an issue yes.

Personally I would buff all mortar lethality but remove auto attack from the game. I believe Miragefly said relic were opposed to this however.


I don't mind so much the auto fire , its the sheer damage this Pak Howitzer does with no effort whatsoever. If its damage was reduced along with its aoe it wouldn't be an issue.
1 Jul 2020, 22:04 PM
#142
avatar of Widerstreit

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King I actually agree with you in regards to auto fire

I don't feel there's anything wrong with a ATG being decrewed in 2 or 3 shots if it is barrage. But autoattack wipes with minimal micro involved are an issue yes.

Personally I would buff all mortar lethality but remove auto attack from the game. I believe Miragefly said relic were opposed to this however.


But maybe for Howitzer and leIG18 this could be changed.
5 Jul 2020, 17:00 PM
#143
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 469

Pack howitser hit my mg42 and now it has 10% hp so i have to retreat it.Then comes the might usf blob and my 3x 4man grens get steamrolled.

The end
5 Jul 2020, 19:45 PM
#145
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Pack Howie is OP but USF is fucked without it.
5 Jul 2020, 19:54 PM
#146
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Jul 2020, 19:45 PMReverb
Pack Howie is OP but USF is fucked without it.


That's a bit of a stretch. You still have the M8 Scott which is still pretty good. USF wouldn't collapse if pack howi becomes a clone of the ISG but with WP and HEAT rounds.
5 Jul 2020, 21:28 PM
#147
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Jul 2020, 19:45 PMReverb
Pack Howie is OP but USF is fucked without it.

I was about to post this, if howie gets nerfed then other stuff need some serious tweaking or USF will be completely useless.

Things like M20 and AAHT are "I lose" buttons right now since you invest into something that rarely pays off.
5 Jul 2020, 21:47 PM
#148
5 Jul 2020, 22:00 PM
#149
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5 Jul 2020, 23:17 PM
#150
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Well nerf the pak howie then deal with double liegs camped around schwerer, nothing but constant harrasment and none from usf. Liegs not as good as the pak howie sure but you can full court press the pak howie impossible to do to liegs not to mention once stuka comes just delete it wowowowowowoow ok.
6 Jul 2020, 01:23 AM
#151
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Jul 2020, 23:17 PMRocket
Well nerf the pak howie then deal with double liegs camped around schwerer, nothing but constant harrasment and none from usf. Liegs not as good as the pak howie sure but you can full court press the pak howie impossible to do to liegs not to mention once stuka comes just delete it wowowowowowoow ok.


so once okw puts all their trucks down and invests almost 1000mp in indirect pak howies have a hard time good to know
8 Jul 2020, 00:13 AM
#152
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jul 2020, 01:23 AMKoRneY


so once okw puts all their trucks down and invests almost 1000mp in indirect pak howies have a hard time good to know


Well they are going to do that anyway as part of normal teching soo? If usf goes pak howie they have to lock put other options, tech to get it as well as it expensive also. Have nothing but inf mostly to stop you from pushing the pak howie away. Wont have .50cal to stop inf from pressing. Maybe usf flak truck i guess.
8 Jul 2020, 01:40 AM
#153
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Jun 2020, 07:42 AMKatitof


And it doesn't, because that's not how scatter works.


Replays please for analysis......
8 Jul 2020, 08:13 AM
#154
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okw puts all their trucks down and invests almost 1000mp in indirect

SwS + Mechanized + Stuka < 1000 MP. Also since you wrote 'howies' then USF investments into them are equal.
I have no problem dealing with them. Personally I think they are much easier to decrew with indirects than PM 38 (sov 120 mm). And using them never turned the game to my favor. IMO the thing could be changed is vet requirements since vet1 is easy to get and then WP becomes annoying.
8 Jul 2020, 12:16 PM
#155
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Jul 2020, 21:47 PMBaba

Seems accurate enough lol. Personally I'd add 'Volks behind sandbags OP, needs nerf'.

Oh and to be relevant - 'Pak Howie needs buff'
8 Jul 2020, 12:51 PM
#156
avatar of Widerstreit

Posts: 1392

All over, removing auto-fire is easiest way to fix them, I think. (same for leIG18) Maybe Relic can be convinced, because why not? Balancing became community-work.
8 Jul 2020, 13:03 PM
#157
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Why is Relic taking so long to fix OP units like this. I will never get it.
8 Jul 2020, 13:17 PM
#158
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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jul 2020, 13:03 PMLeo251
Why is Relic taking so long to fix OP units like this. I will never get it.

its not relic anymore...its some players from here which use this OP unit alot and dont want to nerf them because of the fun they have with them rolfstomp the enemy...same thing with ISU....this unit is like a elefant and a brumbar had babys. totally OP compared to other 70 range units.
11 Jul 2020, 15:04 PM
#159
avatar of NapoleonBonaparte

Posts: 1

Honestly the AOE needs some sort of reduction, I wouldn't mind seeing the mortar being buffed in order to compensate for the Pak Howie getting a slight nerf.
11 Jul 2020, 21:29 PM
#160
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its not relic anymore...its some players from here which use this OP unit alot and dont want to nerf them because of the fun they have with them rolfstomp the enemy...same thing with ISU....this unit is like a elefant and a brumbar had babys. totally OP compared to other 70 range units.


You mean the balance team? I have considered this too .. things like the pak howitzer, field hq and recon plane being shot down instantly without even giving any sight at all. Just utterly bizarre and I don't know why it could be overlooked when its as clear as day its a balance problem.
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