The Churchill

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 03:58 AMAngrade (Ægion)

The Churchill's pop could be knocked down to 16 from 19 but the Firefly is much better than the SU-85

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 08:09 AMDescolata

I think its fine, the KV-1 is an exclusive tank right? only one at a time? The problem with the Church wasnt cost effectiveness, it was spamability, which the pop cost forcibly fixes.

I would suggest just give the Church normal Heavy tank restrictions. IE, only 1 at a time. Balance around only 1 Church.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 09:35 AMWAAAGH2000

Reduce population cost plz，or buff Comet and Churchill but limit one on the field like other heavy

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 01:06 AMBaba

yo blackdream, can you wake up?
who cares about tournaments. those 0.1% players participating in them are nowhere close to representing a playerbase of roughly 6000 Players.
i represent the average company of heroes 2 player more than any of the top tier players you might have seen in recent tournaments and my games (in which i see players from rank 30 to 2500) dont resemble whats happening in the aformentioned tournaments in any way shape or form.

as with any meta, which is shifting by the day btw, it is used by top tier players to get even the smallest edge over their opponents.
guess what, you and i, we dont deal with that kind of problem. you can do a pioneer only build and still have a good chance of winning, try that in a tournament

still after every event people come in this forum to cry about this and that, things they wouldnt even have noticed by playing the game themselfes
axis won more games? axis op
allies won more games? allies op
its mostly the same people anyway

i know, watching a competative scene makes people feel important but holy, its time to stop

this forum is an eternal loop, crying about competetivness in a game which in its core is not competetive. thank god (or relic) for that

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this annoys me since i really enjoy the coh2 tournament scene and im glad that people in this community like A_E, stormless etc. keep it alive and fresh
dont make conclusions on what you see in those but what you experience yourself ingame

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 10:05 AMachpawel

Churchill (just like UKF in genaral) is just another OP unit. It is far too responsive for a heavy tank. Also its health pool is silly imo. But I used it a lot with a lot of success. Now the comet was buffed and Valantine is just over the roof. Maybe churchills start looking a bit bleak. One way or another - again the same story - instead of balancing the game, allied units keep getting buffed and make allied factions much easier to use. Churchill was OP now, it just got overshadowed by other, even more OP units.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 09:57 AMblvckdream

bla bla bla

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 10:13 AMBaba

thats EXACTLY what i was saying.
i like how you changed your post from "4 digit 4v4 players" to rank "1000 players".
must have realised how little sense it made

seen the video of someone doing an iq test for kimbo? pls do the same, you have a natural gift for making sense of things

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 09:47 AMKatitof

Ah, there we have it, took longer then expected, but the inevitable "nerf allied units" from certain guaranteed poster finally appeared.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 09:47 AMKatitof

Churchill is non meta tank with massive pop, you can't realistically get more then 1 and if you damage it enough, you are not going to see it and engineers responsible for repairing it for a LONG time.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 09:47 AMKatitof

KV-1 is infantry support tank and damage sponge/spotter for SU-85, you can get more then 1, but its unfeasable to unless opponent exclusively spams P4s.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 09:47 AMKatitof

Both units are fine within context of their own factions standing behind them.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 09:49 AMBaba

churchill doesnt need a nerf, its pretty niesche and the smoke is the one cool thing about it

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 05:55 AMmrgame2

lol it is not churchill is too pop expensive

churchill has crazy good rotation and acceleration for a heavy tank, self repair, smoke, better gun, faster tracking than panther, better moving accuracy, higher side/rear armor

it is kv1 too pop cheap for its performance.

2 panthers = 36 pop just to deal with churchill or kv1, with no AI left.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jun 2020, 10:45 AMKatitof

Which is balanced by one of the lowest speeds, which you constantly ignore, because it doesn't seem to fit your "allied unit OP" constant narrative.