Stuka CAS

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 00:30 AMBaba

is all your complaining about coding etc. because you just lost one cromwell to an ability? did you rush here once the game ended to cry about how unfair life is?
you were told by 3 people that this is how the ability is intended to work, still youre not satisfied.

there are things in the game that are actually broken which dont get fixed, welcome to coh

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 00:38 AMLatch

if (vision) {state = "attack"} else if !vision {state = "patrol"}. Simple.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 01:38 AMSerrith

Meh. There are other abilities that work like this. For example, AT grenades once the animation starts will home in on the target no matter how far it drives away before the projectile is launched. I've seen vehicles 60+ range get hit by AT rifle nades because of the delay on firing(the delay being a problem, not the tracking).
At least loiters can be shot down, or even dodged once they have been triggered. I am not saying they are well balanced, but there are counter play options.
I don't think this particular case is one where you deserved to get away with your cromwell. At least he had to expend 200 munitions to secure what should have been an easy kill. Content yourself with that.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 07:01 AMHannibal

The player has no chance to learn how loiters work and that they will attack 100% if they aquired their target unless they come to the forums and ask about it. CoH2 does a poor job at communicating this information which makes the ability look like pure RNG and unfair.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 08:11 AMachpawel

That is the problem imo at the current stage of game development. You basically have to experiment with the ability many times or be on its receiving end (again many times) and still it is difficult to figure out how it works exactly. It leads to a lot of frustration. I feel such things should be acknowledged in the description of the ability. If that is not possible we could have a forum section where all abilities/units could be explained. I feel that it is often more necessary than balancing units itself form the perspective of an average afternoon player. Just giving people the knowledge on what to expect instead of making them experiment with every single unit/ability before they more or less know what to expect at what range and against which type of cover/unit, etc.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 08:32 AMHannibal

(..) a lot of manual work to find the respective text strings.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 08:52 AMachpawel

Didn't know that they are so hidden tbh. Usually people wrote that the more problematic might be different language versions.
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Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 18:19 PMSkysTheLimit

That's totally true, it doesn't mean that it's okay

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 18:43 PMKatitof

And it doesn't matter, because its impossible to change it.
We've had this discussion already with P-47 rocket loiter.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 18:19 PMSkysTheLimit

A vehicle that gets tracked should have an icon over it until the lock expires. Similar to when your tank gets tagged with "Mark Target" you see an icon

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 18:19 PMSkysTheLimit

A vehicle that gets tracked should have an icon over it until the lock expires. Similar to when your tank gets tagged with "Mark Target" you see an icon

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 19:31 PMelchino7

How is that supposed to work?

Jump back to quoted post1 Jun 2020, 19:37 PMSkysTheLimit

The same way it already works, just add an icon? When a tank gets locked on the game knows to have the plane attack it. If you move your tank out early enough, the second pass from the two planes won't target it, yes?

So can't we have an indicator that shows this? Or at least shows what "early enough" is? If the game is already making this determination secretly, they're must be some call-out or icon they could match up with it. Would also help for if you have multiple vehicles in the radius

I know the mark Target icon is independant of the plane, just giving an example of the type of visual I'm talking about. Icons like the command tank, mark Target, blitz, etc.