Panther

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2020, 11:52 AMArtemixe

the panther's reduction in moving precision overlaps with the decrease in size in medium tanks. It is quite frustrating.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2020, 11:52 AMArtemixe

the panther's reduction in moving precision overlaps with the decrease in size in medium tanks. It is quite frustrating.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 13:43 PMachpawel

I think panthers should be overworked. I'd prefer them to have he rounds, and less armour. Maybe jackson's moving stats.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 13:48 PMKatitof

You've described P4.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 13:52 PMachpawel

Nope - panther should be an upgrade on p4. But, yes I am not a fan of current panther as a sort of 'strange' tank hunter. It should be main battle tank - probably the most expensive and best premium medium, almost heavy.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 13:52 PMachpawel

Nope - panther should be an upgrade on p4. But, yes I am not a fan of current panther as a sort of 'strange' tank hunter. It should be main battle tank - probably the most expensive and best premium medium, almost heavy.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 16:14 PMKatitof

So, you want to play brits and use comets, but you don't want to actually switch to brits and use comets.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 16:07 PMpvtgooner

It basically already is, no?

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 18:59 PMmiragefla

I'd personally would like the Panther more geared to killing premium medium tanks, heavies and non-640 medium tanks. Axis already have a lot of units geared to killing mediums and since Axis don't have anti-heavy TDs, that should be the Panthers role.

It would need adjustment and testing, but it'd focus on having a 200 damage gun vs those types of units along with possible penetration adjustments.

Even if it was accurate, most mediums can be defeated by a variety of other units. You can already dives lightly supported TDs with blitzing PIVs that are around earlier, can mop up infantry and put pressure throughout the map for less cost, pop, and in the case of Ostheer, tech.

"But mirage, it would club the Comet and T34/85!"

That's kind of its point of deploying the Panther. If the enemy is bringing the higher end tanks to the field, this is what is going to be fielded. And it's AI isn't super crazy so there is still ATG support, TDs, snares, etc.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 18:59 PMmiragefla

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Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2018, 01:30 AMelchino7

If we have heavier tanks (Panther) dealing 200dmg with a slower RoF it would give it a place against both this low HP pool vehicles and premium mediums.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 18:59 PMmiragefla

I'd personally would like the Panther more geared to killing premium medium tanks, heavies and non-640 medium tanks. Axis already have a lot of units geared to killing mediums and since Axis don't have anti-heavy TDs, that should be the Panthers role.

It would need adjustment and testing, but it'd focus on having a 200 damage gun vs those types of units along with possible penetration adjustments.

Even if it was accurate, most mediums can be defeated by a variety of other units. You can already dives lightly supported TDs with blitzing PIVs that are around earlier, can mop up infantry and put pressure throughout the map for less cost, pop, and in the case of Ostheer, tech.

"But mirage, it would club the Comet and T34/85!"

That's kind of its point of deploying the Panther. If the enemy is bringing the higher end tanks to the field, this is what is going to be fielded. And it's AI isn't super crazy so there is still ATG support, TDs, snares, etc.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 18:59 PMmiragefla

I'd personally would like the Panther more geared to killing premium medium tanks, heavies and non-640 medium tanks. Axis already have a lot of units geared to killing mediums and since Axis don't have anti-heavy TDs, that should be the Panthers role.

It would need adjustment and testing, but it'd focus on having a 200 damage gun vs those types of units along with possible penetration adjustments.

Even if it was accurate, most mediums can be defeated by a variety of other units. You can already dives lightly supported TDs with blitzing PIVs that are around earlier, can mop up infantry and put pressure throughout the map for less cost, pop, and in the case of Ostheer, tech.

"But mirage, it would club the Comet and T34/85!"

That's kind of its point of deploying the Panther. If the enemy is bringing the higher end tanks to the field, this is what is going to be fielded. And it's AI isn't super crazy so there is still ATG support, TDs, snares, etc.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2020, 18:59 PMmiragefla

I'd personally would like the Panther more geared to killing premium medium tanks, heavies and non-640 medium tanks. Axis already have a lot of units geared to killing mediums and since Axis don't have anti-heavy TDs, that should be the Panthers role.

It would need adjustment and testing, but it'd focus on having a 200 damage gun vs those types of units along with possible penetration adjustments.

Even if it was accurate, most mediums can be defeated by a variety of other units. You can already dives lightly supported TDs with blitzing PIVs that are around earlier, can mop up infantry and put pressure throughout the map for less cost, pop, and in the case of Ostheer, tech.

"But mirage, it would club the Comet and T34/85!"

That's kind of its point of deploying the Panther. If the enemy is bringing the higher end tanks to the field, this is what is going to be fielded. And it's AI isn't super crazy so there is still ATG support, TDs, snares, etc.