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Bunkers... why?

13 Nov 2013, 07:41 AM
#1
avatar of MarcoRossolini

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rant/ Why do Germans get bunkers and not Soviets? Germans are able to simply play leepfrog when Soviets are on the backfoot. Just had a game where ofcourse the guy spams Assgrens. Then he sets up bunkers on all the choke points and waits for me to come out and get pinned. It's just ridiculous. I don't have enough fuel for counters and stuff like penals just get mown down. I go T1 to get counters for Assgrens which leaves me open to the inevitable armour spam. It's just stupid.

/rant
13 Nov 2013, 08:26 AM
#2
avatar of Nullist

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Perhaps T2 instead?

Try offensive Maxim use in conjunction with Cons support to systematically advance.
Use Molotovs to prevent Assgrens assaulting.
Mines also good.
13 Nov 2013, 09:53 AM
#3
avatar of SgtBulldog

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rant/ Why do Germans get bunkers and not Soviets? Germans are able to simply play leepfrog when Soviets are on the backfoot. Just had a game where ofcourse the guy spams Assgrens. Then he sets up bunkers on all the choke points and waits for me to come out and get pinned. It's just ridiculous. I don't have enough fuel for counters and stuff like penals just get mown down. I go T1 to get counters for Assgrens which leaves me open to the inevitable armour spam. It's just stupid.

/rant


Zis or mortar them. It's doable.
13 Nov 2013, 10:17 AM
#4
avatar of DrinkIIKir

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13 Nov 2013, 10:20 AM
#5
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Zis or mortar them. It's doable.


Vs AssGren spam? what are you smoking >:(

You didn't see the AssGren did ya? lol
13 Nov 2013, 10:34 AM
#6
avatar of RedDog

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I assume he means Zis or mortar for the bunkers.
13 Nov 2013, 10:38 AM
#7
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13 Nov 2013, 11:10 AM
#8
avatar of johnny

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flamer clown car vs assgrens, when u beat em agrens, get behind the bunker.. destroy it with demo charge
13 Nov 2013, 11:15 AM
#9
avatar of jeesuspietari

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Bunkers could use a popcap penalty
13 Nov 2013, 11:26 AM
#10
avatar of tuvok
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satchel charge drains down about 1/2 health so you need two, 120 ammo to take down a 60 ammo bunker, +wait for satchel cooldown.
If he goes light vehicles get guards (they take down bunkers quickly with ptrs), otherwise avoid them until you get a ZiS (no need to barrage just use direct fire)
13 Nov 2013, 12:53 PM
#11
avatar of Greeb

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Flamers or demo charges as usual counter.

Satchel charges if you go T1, and ZiS if you go T2.
13 Nov 2013, 13:57 PM
#12
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Nov 2013, 10:34 AMRedDog
I assume he means Zis or mortar for the bunkers.


Rgr.

You still need a screen against the assualtgrens. I thought that spoke for itself.

And btw.: none of the other methods suggested so far are cost effective.

I realise Tuvok must have been joking with that ISU.
13 Nov 2013, 14:20 PM
#13
avatar of undostrescuatro

Posts: 525

the question is not how to counter bunkers. is more like why they dont have bunkers. i want bunkers too. why? because i like bunkers because i like russians and i want both. i dont care if its a shitty trench.

sanbags take too long to build
13 Nov 2013, 14:23 PM
#14
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you still can't afford to go mortars when facing assgrens.
guards is the best choice to take down bunkers, and they remain useful as light vehicle counters afterwards.
same for ZiS but it forces you T2
13 Nov 2013, 14:26 PM
#15
avatar of Eupolemos
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Well, it is quite straight forward. The only thing is, you cannot be lax, you must act and push.

T0: Flamer engies.
T1: Scoutcar w/flamers (makes it easy if you are having difficulties with the pinning).
T2: AT-gun (protect with Maxim of course).

The strat is cheasy, but I've done my share of ranting about Assgrens.
13 Nov 2013, 19:59 PM
#16
avatar of SgtBulldog

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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Nov 2013, 14:23 PMtuvok
you still can't afford to go mortars when facing assgrens.
guards is the best choice to take down bunkers, and they remain useful as light vehicle counters afterwards.
same for ZiS but it forces you T2


Point taken, but guards also forces you into specific commanders.
13 Nov 2013, 20:01 PM
#17
avatar of keithsboredom

Posts: 117

at guns and clown car flamers are the best way to deal with bunkers early game.
13 Nov 2013, 20:08 PM
#18
avatar of MetaStable14

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Sandbags should take the same amount of time to build as capturing a point. Currently it is 2x that.
14 Nov 2013, 13:15 PM
#19
avatar of SgtBulldog

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Why should building a sandbag wall be a quick thing? It's allready free.
14 Nov 2013, 15:36 PM
#20
avatar of undostrescuatro

Posts: 525

Why should building a sandbag wall be a quick thing? It's allready free.


because the time that they take to be built vs their use. does not match. by the time you built it.

1 the fight has has already begun a while ago.

2 you have to move elsewhere.
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