Winter balance (1/2020) feedback OKW

Jump back to quoted post2 Mar 2020, 23:03 PMT.R. Stormjäger

I already said any buff to the Cmd Panther is 1v1 oriented. Please read thoroughly.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2020, 00:07 AMSkysTheLimit

I saw. And how exactly would a change only effect 1v1? If the commander is already good in team games, it doesn't take much to push it over the top

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2020, 00:13 AMT.R. Stormjäger

You can improve xp gain from infantry damage by a bit to help vet it up, you can give it some extra utility such as a sight mode like the T70 or a plane over the tank. You can also give some kind of repair buff to other vehicles or let it have crew repairs.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2020, 00:21 AMSkysTheLimit

Again how does any of this not effect team games? Vetting up faster is beneficial no matter what game mode. Vision is shared. Crew repairs would be huge in team games, the maps are much larger

I think IR StGs should be exclusive to spec-ops, Grand Offensive already has enough anti-infantry

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2020, 03:07 AMelchino7

If after the patch, OKW has around 5 viable commanders for 1v1

Jump back to quoted post5 Mar 2020, 12:48 PMT.R. Stormjäger

That might be a bit optimistic.

Jump back to quoted post5 Mar 2020, 14:01 PMelchino7

Grand Operations
Luftwaffe
Breakthrough/Spec Ops/Overwatch/Elite

Basically the same 2 main commanders which we saw during the tournament but with less prevalence filled by the rest?

Jump back to quoted post5 Mar 2020, 14:07 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Firestorm - Will be meta
Spec Ops - Still useless
Overwatch - Niche. Way overnerfed.
Elie Armoured - Sturmtiger still immobile and bad shell collisions. Useful doc on occasion.
Breakthrough - Forever niche due to Jagdtiger useless in 1v1. Can be useful if you abuse officier.
Luftwaffe - Useful on occasion, but less so without Fallschrimjager fausts. Kind of meta.
Grand Offensive - I think we’ll stop seeing it once people realize the new Tiger isn’t good and the KT as stock is better.
Fortifications - Niche, but might see more use with the LeFH pop cap buff.
Scavenge - Way too weak.

Basically Firestorm and Luftwaffe will be meta.

Jump back to quoted post5 Mar 2020, 14:07 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Firestorm - Will be meta
Spec Ops - Still useless
Overwatch - Niche. Way overnerfed.
Elie Armoured - Sturmtiger still immobile and bad shell collisions. Useful doc on occasion.
Breakthrough - Forever niche due to Jagdtiger useless in 1v1. Can be useful if you abuse officier.
Luftwaffe - Useful on occasion, but less so without Fallschrimjager fausts. Kind of meta.
Grand Offensive - I think we’ll stop seeing it once people realize the new Tiger isn’t good and the KT as stock is better.
Fortifications - Niche, but might see more use with the LeFH pop cap buff.
Scavenge - Way too weak.

Basically Firestorm and Luftwaffe will be meta.

Jump back to quoted post5 Mar 2020, 16:27 PMSuperHansFan

You underestimate how strong fussies are, especially with the patch nerfing cons. I imagine grand ops will remain meta just with more diverse armor play. Maybe more KTs

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2020, 18:30 PMitaperuna

u all are loosing the focus...
we need to buff a little a command panther.
just a critical repair would be nice.

dude, the panther cant kill any infantry.
so or we focus in a ant tank tank wit a turret ou improve a little vs infantry, just like pz4.

today make no reason pick up this commander...

Jump back to quoted post5 Mar 2020, 16:54 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Fusiliers will remain niche as long as they are a black hole in munis. You can’t go mechanized, drop medkits, put down mines and upgrade fusiliers and use grenades. Way too muni intensive.

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2020, 15:05 PMSmartie

+1

This post leads me to a unit that should get some attention: The Sturmofficer.

The unit is more or less in a good spot™ after the changes but has awful synergy with Pfussies in Breakthrough doctrine. Pfussies needs tons of munitions for their G43 upgrade and the Sturmofficer is also VERY mun intensive if you want to use his abilities. Add the mun costs for mines, sweeper and med kits... and you know why i wrote about "awful synergy".

This is why i would like to suggest a radical idea:

1. Remove the Sturmofficer from Breakthrough
2. Make the unit a stock unit in Battlegroup HQ

This changes would have the following benefits:
1. The mod team can add a unit/ ability that has better synergy with Pfussies
2. Battlegroup HQ gets finally more attractive!

I really cant see any disadvantages and the mod team already did the same with the Airlanding officer for the Brits. Hell, the Brits dont even have to make a tech choice to get the chance to build the officer.

And lets be honest:
Even after this change BG HQ will still be considerably weaker than Mech HQ.
But BG would at least offer more than in the past.