How I feel about paid commanders.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2013, 21:08 PMwooof

why does this post make no sense?

first of all, coh2 was a complete game upon release. it may not have lived up to what people expected, but it had full campaign and multiplayer. "but it didnt have what vcoh had" and thats also not what defines a full game. this is a different game and people should accept that. besides, relic is working to add some of the features people are requesting.

secondly, none of the paid dlc is required to play or enjoy this game. if you want more singleplayer missions, you can buy ToW. if you only like multiplayer and want new options, you can buy commanders. if you dont want to, theres no reason you cant play without these.

you also compare this to magicka, which makes no sense. its a small indie title which has 20+ pieces of dlc that more than triples the cost of the game. i fail to see the relevance of that comparison. by your logic, magicka was incomplete upon release because they added dlc. magicka also released a dlc over 2 years after the game, so it made you wait over 2 years to get the full experience. just because its a cheap indie title its ok?

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2013, 21:18 PMAffe

You Need to buy the DLC commanders sooner or later because the game starts to get boring without new Units.That was relics idea behind all this.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2013, 03:11 AMNoun

I think the idea of comparing this with Call of Duty or Battlefield is a bit off the mark. We're really looking at games as a service more than a title that gets a new full priced game every year or two. We're not going to drop a $70 CoH 3 next year. We intend to support CoH 2 for the long term, even more effectively than we did with the original.

We know that some people don't like DLC, and sometimes that's a fair opinion to have. But what items like the Commanders allow us to do is offer a greater level of support to the base game than we'd have been able to in the past. Free content like new maps, the World Builder and features like Steam Chat lobbies are all built off of support from the DLC. The Turning Point Update is a huge free update to the game, and there's content in there that would not exist if it weren't for paid DLC.

CoH2 was a full game on release, nothing was held back from it. It had as robust a single player campaign as the first, a multiplayer mode like the first and an entire new play experience with Theater of War which lets players play pre-set AI battles and co-op.

We have a long roadmap for the game, and we hope you guys will stick around. There's no need to buy all of the DLC, we don't expect everyone to. Just like we designed the original expansion packs for CoH to be useable if you didn't have the base game and for players who didn't buy the expansion packs to be able to play against those that did, we're dedicated to making sure everyone has a great experience no matter what version of the game or what additional content they may have.

We hope you like the game, we've got really great plans for it.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2013, 10:51 AMherr anfsim

Im sorry if I sound ungratefull, but I find some of the free content a poor justification for the DLC direction of the game.

Its great that you add new maps, a worldbuilder and a chat, but this is all features you would expect from a COH game to begin with. When you release a game stripped of some of the most basic multiplayeroptions, I really dont think reintroducing some of them justifies the DLCs.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2013, 23:00 PMm00nch1ld

+100

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2013, 00:09 AMTricycle_Looper

I can see both sides.

However, once the game gets a reputation for P2W then the game will die real quick because it will put off competitive players. And when I first loaded up the game, it did LOOK like P2W. Just sayin'.

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2013, 04:52 AMKalismist

If it walks like a duck, talks like a ducks.. looks like a duck..

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2013, 05:40 AMUGBEAR

smells like a duck, testes like a duck

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2013, 06:09 AMWiFiDi

coh2 DLC under a microscope.

Coh2 DLC when Bought

just in case you wondered what a duck testes look like. mmm

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2013, 17:01 PMTricycle_Looper

If you're going to go with DLC content tho, Relic, can you not at least have an actual website where you can actually look at the different commanders you can buy? I mean ffs... I can't make out what each commander does from a 5px by 5px ultra-compressed jpeg on steam store.

Especially when you have, like, ten million commanders. Is there really any need for that many? Why make the game even more confusing for new players?

I have a really awful feeling that some really bad decisions have been made with this game.

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2013, 11:25 AMWhat Doth Life?!

I feel like the vanilla roster of commanders in COH2 can counter any of the DLC commanders just fine. I don't think the "Pay to win" idea translates to balance as much as enjoyment.

The thing is, even if I have to pay $4 for a commander that's the price of a latte and a latte only lasts minutes. Relic has been patching and improving this game at a fervorous pace, interacting with us on the forums and listening to our incessant whining and even appeasing some of it.