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T34 85 needs to have slightly less AI. It's shells are basically on par with Sherman HE yet it does everything.

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12 Dec 2019, 07:55 AMIncendiaryRounds

T34 85 needs to have slightly less AI. It's shells are basically on par with Sherman HE yet it does everything.

True. T34/85 should be like a Panther, with almost zero dmg to Inf.
The 76 version should be the Inf killer.
Also, the hull machingun on both versions deal too much dmg, without any MU cost.

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12 Dec 2019, 16:56 PMLeo251

True. T34/85 should be like a Panther, with almost zero dmg to Inf.
The 76 version should be the Inf killer.
Also, the hull machingun on both versions deal too much dmg, without any MU cost.

Yeah I always thought 76 should be slightly better vs inf. I'm not asking for a panther level nerf to the 85 though

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I wish the Panther was a copy of the T34/85.

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12 Dec 2019, 16:56 PMLeo251

True. T34/85 should be like a Panther, with almost zero dmg to Inf.
The 76 version should be the Inf killer.
Also, the hull machingun on both versions deal too much dmg, without any MU cost.

Can't really make any excuse for the T-34/85, but the 76 needs the good hull MG, otherwise there's no point in building it other than as a 90 fuel snare with its timing.

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12 Dec 2019, 18:13 PMFarlion

I wish the Panther was a copy of the T34/85.

It would be good at ai then and decent at AT.
But also loose 120 health, loose 100 armour, loose some range, loose heavy crush blitz and pintle mg.
But you would gain ram and capture territory, and the price would drop as well. Would be put in t3 as well leaving a gaping hole in t4. Putting all of current t3 to shame but would struggle a lot more vs td,s and heavies.
Late game t4 in an even worse state then now for ost lol.

Its almost as if the fuel you pay more for the panther now gets you some good really good stuff.

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12 Dec 2019, 18:14 PMRaviloli

Can't really make any excuse for the T-34/85, but the 76 needs the good hull MG, otherwise there's no point in building it other than as a 90 fuel snare with its timing.

Yeah the main gun of the t34/76 is quite bad vs inf. Without the hull mg as it currently is the t34/76 would only excel vs light vehicles.

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12 Dec 2019, 18:26 PMMr Carmine

It would be good at ai then and decent at AT.
But also loose 120 health, loose 100 armour, loose some range, loose heavy crush blitz and pintle mg.
But you would gain ram and capture territory, and the price would drop as well. Would be put in t3 as well leaving a gaping hole in t4. Putting all of current t3 to shame but would struggle a lot more vs td,s and heavies.
Late game t4 in an even worse state then now for ost lol.

Its almost as if the fuel you pay more for the panther now gets you some good really good stuff.

And also barely more expensive than Panzer IV and infinitely superior. Yeah, I'll take that trade.