Same issue post patch

https://www.coh2.org/replay/66598/for-balance-review-team/page/1#post_id645584
I post replay before patch showing how Stug is too strong vs Brits since Brits have no snare. see above link

Now I post another game with very good player (Vonivan) playing Brit. In this replay we see how much Vonivan struggle vs Stug showing this is a universal problem with this unit vs this faction. When Vonivan play soviet or USF he doesn't have issue with Stugs. I hope Mr. Smith can take this seriously and maybe give Brits better snare on Sniper ( the sniper snare only works on light vehicles, on medium armor it just locks the turret I think) in a way like they improved snare on AEC, or maybe reduce Rate Of Fire on Stug.

If Vonivan thinks Stug's are balanced vs Brit and has an explanation for why he struggled instead, I would love here reason.

Happy New Years all.

But Brit snipers can snare stugs, as there is no turret to lock.

EDIT: stun, not snare.

The issue is that while stugs are already a highly cost effective unit, vs Brits with no snare and the worst (almost unusable) infantry anti-tank (PIATS) they become, in my opinion, TOO cost effective. Low cost also makes them highly spammable as this game you see.

While the recent patch change to the AEC does help somewhat, I feel more is needed. Adding a reliable SNARE to the Sniper for all medium armor and making Piats like USF Bazookas would be my recommendation, and since doing this would run risk of countesnipe from ostheer sniper I think it would be a balanced and fair change without effective stug works vs other factions.

I would also say the STug MG42 needs buff vs infantry so it can at least engage enemy troops somewhat (without rely on crush), and in compensation maybe slight ROF reduction to make the tank overall more balanced.

If you compare cost of OKW Jag to Ostheer Stug and the effectiveness of both, it is clear stug is way too cost effective.


No offense to Prodigy, but Vonivan is much better coh2 player and was winning game UNTIL Stug Spam begins. This is one of many high level games i see where Stug spam begins and good players with Brits begin lose badly.